Buffy_04364:   lol
scorp:   got to watch for 94 support
ppusa:   i can read buffy better than nq
Buffy_04364:   lol
Owlee123:   buffy, just noticed your poke bars- do you go long above 
the poke bar protuding above the triangle?
Buffy_04364:   
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/Other_Folders/buffy/Buffy-
1m_triangle_with_poke_bars1.gif.
Buffy_04364:   the red text explains it but yes
Buffy_04364:   below also
Owlee123:   tks
dave_b_quik:   buffy the princess of poke bars
Buffy_04364:   :-)
Buffy_04364:   as u r the king of retro and springs
ppusa:   tif you look at what happened there...nq tested 6 and failed
ppusa:   lower high
Buffy_04364:   true pp but when I see LH and HL it is usually chop for 
a while and like to wait or scalp and tmar if enough room
dave_b_quik:   if buffy's link didn't work, try this: 
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/Other_Folders/buffy/Buffy-
1m_triangle_with_poke_bars1.gif 
ppusa:   now watch for turn around
Buffy_04364:   bos stop tight
Buffy_04364:   out
ppusa:   yea buffy what i would say there is this
ppusa:   this time of day that pattern reoccurs constantly
ppusa:   that is the most important thing to be learned there
Buffy_04364:   if you learn the pattern you are ready for it any time 
of day
Buffy_04364:   brb
ppusa:   that one doesn't occur any time....just the after lunch crunch
ppusa:   but the lower high does
ppusa:   and that is what logicmaster is all about
ppusa:   test and fail
ppusa:   market acts in a logical manor
ppusa:   scorp the four criteria....trendline break, lower high, ma 
cross and flat 20 ma.
scorp:   yes
scorp:   is that the pattern you just talked about?
ppusa:   all there....no not the pattern....pattern is separate issue
ppusa:   but pattern complies too
ppusa:   it's the lower high that is the trigger
ppusa:   but this overall pattern....i have seen reverse many many 
times
scorp:   i'm with you now; sorry i was on the phone
scorp:   paltalk really messing me up
ppusa:   in other words i think there is a darn good chance of a rally
ppusa:   but it would need to be confirmed
scorp:   with .. blah blah blah
ppusa:   confirmation would be up from here
ppusa:   higher low
ppusa:   trendline break
ppusa:   20 ma is flat
ppusa:   and they will cross if nq goes up
ppusa:   most important would be a higher low
scorp:   thats what i am waiting for
ppusa:   until then short or flat
scorp:   that is what i have been trying to do, in general, its just 
that i find that i stray; no darn discipline
scorp:   right, looking for long confirmation
ppusa:   draw downtrend line
ppusa:   keep moving it down
ppusa:   lemmie check PnF
scorp:   that would be good
ppusa:   double tops double bottoms.........not much help...30 says up 
soon
scorp:   hmmm
ppusa:   since 25 has hit 30 is unreliable
scorp:   i wait 
ppusa:   if nq gets above 6 Andrews shold confirm
scorp:   lower channel line being tested here
ppusa:   96 to 98 should put shorts on defensive
ppusa:   see how ma's said the downtrend wold continue from that 
congestion
scorp:   yes, edging down
ppusa:   probably can't see it the same as me but
scorp:   thats true
ppusa:   very subjective
ppusa:   but now on the 15 minute chart price has broken away from the 
ma's
scorp:   i agree, i think that is a very powerful statement
ppusa:   so it can turn up
ppusa:   can
scorp:   it provides the energy to move up
ppusa:   yes.....well put
ppusa:   very well put
ppusa:   that's what happened this am
scorp:   i have noticed that the big looping moves are generally 
stronger than moves from flat
ppusa:   first stop was neutral
ppusa:   at ma's.....not above
ppusa:   i always forget
ppusa:   only thing kept me from short was 20 area and no 1-2-3
ppusa:   i would have had to run to the exit like a scalded dawg
ppusa:   higher low
scorp:   yes, watching
ppusa:   some would wait for second test
ppusa:   before long
scorp:   i can almost feel the move up; but ...
ppusa:   through 98 then back
ppusa:   no confirm yet
ppusa:   previous bar high 15 min 97.5
scorp:   thats were my line is
ppusa:   sometimes get a retrace to line after break
scorp:   it bothers me that it is taking so long
ppusa:   i better test of low sort of thing..and if that one holds, off 
to the races
scorp:   that would be good
scorp:   the dbs
ppusa:   that'd be the one
ppusa:   i am already long q's so i may be slow entering
ppusa:   i know i always get bitched at for not calling trades
ppusa:   i think everyone knows what i am looking at here......duh
scorp:   lets go
ppusa:   nothing clear yet
ppusa:   it looks very clear to me i should say but i don't yet so the 
dbs or trigger
ppusa:   PnF 3 point says reverse down soon
ppusa:   if that holds, bye bye
ppusa:   resis here
ppusa:   shallower trendline
ppusa:   and lots of ma's
Buffy_04364:   yes the tl from that triangle earlier
ppusa:   logic would wait for the next test and as soon as momentum 
turned up he would enter
ppusa:   same as saying 3 point reversal holds, bye bye
scorp:   sounds good
ppusa:   look for retrace to broken trendline and if that holds, bye 
bye
ppusa:   anyone have other input???
tomsurf:   looks like a Buufy bounce will setup on 144t if we get that 
pullback pp
ppusa:   also since we broke 98 and everyone went long, should retrace 
to 97 or so to scare them
scorp:   lets get higher swing low
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-
133T_NQ14.gif
Buffy_04364:   symetry :-)
ppusa:   sorry 95.5 break.....retrace to 94
ppusa:   still hasn't taken out a more major swing
Buffy_04364:   symmetry
ppusa:   where buffy?
tomsurf:   just gonna have to hold tos imo
ppusa:   the post?
Buffy_04364:   yes
ppusa:   dbs??????/
scorp:   maybe
Buffy_04364:   just starting to notice that stuff
ppusa:   room for one more dip
Buffy_04364:   don't even know how should play out
scorp:   i have a poke bar at 1399
scorp:   thats a high
ppusa:   looks pretty darn good
ppusa:   actually doesn't yet
Buffy_04364:   no another trinagle really
ppusa:   yea....now see if failure here
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-
133T_NQ15.gif
ppusa:   i see bigger trendline above and that is more important
scorp:   thanks pp and buffy, feeling the market well here
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-
133T_NQ16.gif
scorp:   upper line holding resistance
Buffy_04364:   that one pp?
ppusa:   unfortunately i can't get to posts...hang on
ppusa:   yes
Buffy_04364:   howard has made it somuch easier to mark charts
Buffy_04364:   glad it working for you scorp
Buffy_04364:   :-)
scorp:   i think i need to talk it out more with others
scorp:   that helps alot
Buffy_04364:   yes it always helps
Buffy_04364:   could of used this last week LOL
ppusa:   sometimes if everyone has same focus helps the talker too
scorp:   very true pp
scorp:   i appreciate it
Buffy_04364:   so true pp
tomsurf:   agree
scorp:   94 failure down
ppusa:   bollinger bands said room for this dip
ppusa:   as well as the trendline, etc.
Daniel X:   ok back in time
scorp:   lower line coming up; if broken i suspect 86 up next
ppusa:   also you can see how hard it wold be to stay short here
scorp:   ok dan, work your magic
ppusa:   bashing every little swing
scorp:   thats a great point
ppusa:   that was retrace to brokjen tl
Daniel X:   lol
Buffy_04364:   yes and respected bos too
scorp:   we are under ma's everywhere
Buffy_04364:   only bad thing is volume increased on that swing down
ppusa:   the question i have is if nq breaks the TL above,,,,since nq 
usually retraces....will it come back down again
ppusa:   like what wil finally turn this up if anything
Orprepus:   what goes up must come down - newton
scorp:   right, and that is what b___ was saying about weges get tested 
100% of the time
Orprepus:   Sir Issac
Daniel X:   1394 is @ cash
Buffy_04364:   this can also be a wedge I think
ppusa:   now the big guns are here
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-
133T_NQ17.gif
ppusa:   wedgie here
ppusa:   little triangle wedgie
Buffy_04364:   mine is big
Buffy_04364:   :-)
Orprepus:   symetrical triangle forming on 4m es
tippet:   big pattern is tha exp tri on 15
scorp:   big wedge
ppusa:   which means Orp. continue or reverse?
scorp:   here comes the bullpen
Buffy_04364:   see it orp
Buffy_04364:   asi not joining the party on es at all though
ppusa:   triangles usually continue
scorp:   no party :(
ppusa:   symmetrical ones
Orprepus:   yup
ppusa:   i was saving this but i can't do it any longer
ppusa:   yeehaw....saddle up
Orprepus:   lol
ppusa:   no discipline
scorp:   lol
Orprepus:   feel like they are setting up a big up over
Orprepus:   like yesterday
Orprepus:   going to take a break
Buffy_04364:   could be orp
ppusa:   you or the market
ppusa:   good bollinger band support down here
ppusa:   lots of time frames
Buffy_04364:   bos too pp
Buffy_04364:   still respecting it
ppusa:   double bottom was okay because it is this hour's low
ppusa:   the only time i am willing to accept double bottoms
ppusa:   higher low there
ppusa:   TL break coming
Buffy_04364:   asi starting to join the party in ES
ppusa:   maybe i shold have saved it..........hang on
Buffy_04364:   NQ next?
ppusa:   yeehaw....saddle up
Buffy_04364:   trin and tick confirming
ppusa:   dow and es are equivalent 99 nq
ppusa:   well dow is
ppusa:   es same
Daniel X:   lol
ppusa:   just beneath previous high
ppusa:   20 on 5 here
Daniel X:   let them go + FV 1rst
ppusa:   15 slightly higher
Daniel X:   close
ppusa:   i like long
ppusa:   not ouot of the woods but i likje
Buffy_04364:   went long at 95
ppusa:   96 was trigger
ppusa:   hind sight
ppusa:   should retrace
Buffy_04364:   trigger for you
ppusa:   also 
tippet:   20ema15
ppusa:   6 point PnF iffy
tomsurf:   ro4 triggered at 96.5ish on 3min
ppusa:   me no like long yet
ppusa:   changed my miond
Buffy_04364:   tmar when tagged tos and 200 ema on 133T
ppusa:   3 humper
alan123:   was paltalk down for a while?
Daniel X:   good volume
ppusa:   TL poke
Buffy_04364:   pyra says cot except for asi
ppusa:   3 humper
Daniel X:   setup looking good so far
ppusa:   good for what
scorp:   ran right up to 200ma 144T
ppusa:   could you imagine trying to stay short (or long) through that
ppusa:   warning 3 humper
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-
133T_NQ18.gif
ppusa:   everyone should look at Buffy's last post
dave_b_quik:   i see
ppusa:   paints incredibly ugly picture
Buffy_04364:   bline stoch about to meet up with bline
cluetrain:   i'm stalking nqoos again, anyone seen him?
ppusa:   talk about a party spoiler
tomsurf:   Buffy- when that happens what are you looking foe?
Buffy_04364:   it is his birthday today
Buffy_04364:   cot
Buffy_04364:   when they meet
tomsurf:   yes
tomsurf:   ok, thx
ispec_rickm:   clue, we don't encourage stalkers here
Buffy_04364:   also looking on a 28T chart when I said that
Buffy_04364:   not many are
Buffy_04364:   sorry
tomsurf:   just wanted to make sure I wasn't missin anything
cluetrain:   but he's my guru....
ppusa:   buffy did you post bline to stocu?
cluetrain:   i feel lost....where's the divergence?
Buffy_04364:   no
dave_b_quik:   i feel kinda clueless right now too cluetrain
cluetrain:   lol
tomsurf:   lol
cluetrain:   i got one word.......
cluetrain:   chop
RJ -:   cluetrain...he's celebrating his birthday.....don't bother him 
:)
tomsurf:   lookin like chop channel
Daniel X:   we have no clear picture yet.NQs and ES trading @ FV so 
have to wait
ppusa:   if you analyze that #17 post of buffy's
dave_b_quik:   happy birthday cluetrain
cluetrain:   i'm crashing rj
scorp:   looking at it pp
ppusa:   should flip below that line by the same distance
ispec_rickm:   not him, dave
cluetrain:   thx dave
RJ -:   dave...lol...it's nqoosa b-day
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-
stoch%20%20meet%20bline19.gif
Buffy_04364:   that setup with bline is true in all tfs
ppusa:   1370
dave_b_quik:   oh, i thot NQoos birthday was yesterday
cluetrain:   august is just around the corner
RJ -:   no, 2day
ispec_rickm:   never hurts to start partying early, huh clue
ppusa:   still holding....another triangle
Buffy_04364:   stoch above/below 80/20 and bline catches up
cluetrain:   got that right, indy
scorp:   i probably will miss the move; we are all over the place
ppusa:   hey keep the focus you guys
scorp:   i'm trying !!!!
Buffy_04364:   scorp there will be a place to get on the train
Daniel X:   stochs bullish
scorp:   you will see me thumbing it
scorp:   flat here
scorp:   we need to break
Buffy_04364:   everything so flat here
tippet:   p were holding 91.5 and sox is hlding up here as well draw lines on 15 see channel??
Daniel X:   everyone is waiting for a major to make a move..were tightrope walking FV
Buffy_04364:   volume is picking up though
ppusa:   tappering off a bit again
Daniel X:   they're tryiny to anticipate teh directoin
ppusa:   yes
scorp:   me too
ppusa:   i probably will pass on this.........
tomsurf:   scorp- naw don't ;-)
Daniel X:   lol...don't have to get the best entry..better a confirmed one
scorp:   well, i'm not doing anything like buying or selling
scorp:   lol
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-stoch%20%20meet%20bline20.gif
Buffy_04364:   forgot to change title
Buffy_04364:   sorry
Buffy_04364:   really the 133T
scorp:   mental exercise
RJ -:   96 is my pivot...and it evidently knows it....over, back, over, back...
cluetrain:   let's count to three and jump in the shredder.
Daniel X:   its pretty much Fair value RJ @ 94
tippet:   RO4 3min coming up
Daniel X:   is why
ppusa:   hour chart setup
ppusa:   i think that's what this is
ppusa:   sometimes need to starat the next hour before a move can begin
ppusa:   well all this sideways burned me out
ppusa:   brb
cluetrain:   focus pp
RJ -:   short 97.50...tight stop
RJ -:   stop b/e
Buffy_04364:   voolume dropped back off :-(
ppusa:   as soon as we went back to triangle
Daniel X:   the more we trade in this 1394 are the more likely we'll fill the 1359 gap
Daniel X:   *area
Daniel X:   not saying today but with emp tomorrow
cluetrain:   ask not what the chop can do for you; ask how you can stay out of the chop.
dave_b_quik:   if we extend this triangle to it's apex, we get 4:15, hmmm
Daniel X:   1415?
ppusa:   dave can you post
dave_b_quik:   16:15
Daniel X:   oh i see..ok
tomsurf:   dave saying chop in range rest of the day ;-0
Daniel X:   i know
Daniel X:   not if we cant hold FV though
Daniel X:   i suspect
tomsurf:   Daniel- maybe sometime you could explain that??
Daniel X:   whats that?
tomsurf:   about holding FV and what you look for.
Daniel X:   ah ok
tomsurf:   after hours is fine
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-NQ_133T21.gif
ppusa:   Dave can you post your triangle time projection please
ppusa:   3 humper won
scorp:   i got some there
scorp:   short side
Daniel X:   great scorp!
Buffy_04364:   bos tagged
Buffy_04364:   nice scorp!
dave_b_quik:   sure, ppusa, but that triangle is history now LOL
tomsurf:   good scorp ;-)
ppusa:   that's okay
ppusa:   please post
RJ -:   covered 86.50 +11
ppusa:   i am wondering if all those 3 humpers setup as buffy drew
ppusa:   worth looking into
tomsurf:   always like to see your charts dave
ppusa:   retrace to broken trendline
Daniel X:   great RJ..nice one guys or er gals
ispec_rickm:   nice trade RJ
scorp:   i'll have to take a look pp
ppusa:   best post of the day
ppusa:   threw a lot of cold water on the rally potential
txsbum:   sell at 1119
txsbum:   selling
ppusa:   symmetrical decline to here
ppusa:   170 tick
Daniel X:   just a note: alot expected not much more than a 30 point drop today
Buffy_04364:   this could get ugly if this doesn't hold
Daniel X:   ahead of emp #
RJ -:   buffy....potential to 76, but I doubt it
ppusa:   retrace to broken trendline again
Daniel X:   and remember yesterday when i said they expected a bad # and down was the direction in anticipation 
of it...
Buffy_04364:   yes
Daniel X:   gotta get into overnights soon..i tell yah
Grego28:   hi all
ppusa:   whatever i enjoyed watching this with that kind of focus....Buffy's chart saved the day imo.
Daniel X:   and beneath FV wins the hands of the shorts
Daniel X:   so far!
Grego28:   can anyone read my text and tell me if there are any mistakes in English - it is a 
text about the nasdaq action wchich i have expected to happen for 3 weeks ?
Grego28:   look at http://futures20.of.pl
Grego28:   buffy are yu there ?
Buffy_04364:   yes
Grego28:   can you read my text ?
Daniel X:   after hours woud be best
Grego28:   it s not long
Grego28:   ok
Buffy_04364:   yeah, reading it will discuss after market ok?
Grego28:   ok buffy
Grego28:   in na hour ?
Buffy_04364:   ok
Grego28:   thanks 
Buffy_04364:   u welc
Buffy_04364:   last bar is reanchor in NQ
tomsurf:   thx Buffy
Buffy_04364:   ditto for ES also
ppusa:   a little oversold???
Buffy_04364:   well lets see if this reverses on reanchor
Buffy_04364:   we will see
Buffy_04364:   could go down one more time
ppusa:   yes
Buffy_04364:   or just might give higher low
ppusa:   general area looks a little oversold
Buffy_04364:   sure does
ppusa:   could hit some stops or something
ppusa:   spike
Buffy_04364:   be awfully surprised if it goes through bos though
RJ -:   LL
Buffy_04364:   yep seen that happen too
scorp:   i have to leave shortly; thank you everyone for a nice trading discussion
Buffy_04364:   tring and tick not cooperating here
Buffy_04364:   u welc scorp
ppusa:   i have 1370 target on that measurement if accurate
Buffy_04364:   hope others did too
tomsurf:   yes scorp- you too
Buffy_04364:   ok LL
Buffy_04364:   phone
RJ -:   someone needs to save the transcript....I missed most of the discussion
txsbum:   long
txsbum:   stp is 19
p_8:   RJ, I used to do that, but it's been very quiet recently and I stop saving them.
p_8:   maybe a good idea to resume when there is more discussion
RJ -:   p_8....I'm referencing discussion from earlier today
p_8:   y, missed that
p_8:   paltak cut the text already
ppusa:   what part do you want?
Buffy_04364:   I just saved from discussion of poke bar forward can email you p_8
Buffy_04364:   do you have it all pp? Great if you do
Buffy_04364:   cause mine isn't time stamped
ppusa:   i got the part where you killed the rally
Buffy_04364:   LOL
Daniel X:   was no rally to be had..don't blame her!
ppusa:   dan hush
Daniel X:   he he 
ppusa:   usually when i save it it only saves a smallpart
Buffy_04364:   well this is one love those reanchors when they don't go sideways
ppusa:   descending TL here
ppusa:   not that nq is in a down trend
Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-NQ_133T22.gif
p_8:   if anyone has today's complete text you can ftp the file to transcript directory and use today's 
date as file name (2002-04-04.txt), or you can email me (will give my email thru PM) and I'll ftp 
the file.
ppusa:   i will send you what i have if ya want it
Buffy_04364:   does yours start befoe poke bar link?
ppusa:   ppusa: yea buffy what i would say there is this Buffy_04364: out ppusa: this time of day that pattern 
reoccurs constantly ppusa: that is the most important thing to be learned there Buffy_04364: if you learn the 
pattern you are ready for it any time of day Buffy_04364: brb ppusa: that one doesn't occur any time....just 
the after lunch crunch ppusa: but the lower high does 
ppusa:   that's the start
p_8:   hmm, pp, no time stamp
ppusa:   must have been 2:00 ish
Buffy_04364:   mine should go back little more but no time stamp either
ppusa:   no 1:00
ppusa:   after lunch
txsbum:   time to ralllly
Buffy_04364:   what isyour email p_8
p_8:   it's in the PM
tippet:   170t brk an RO4here 
Daniel X:   hope we do..but ahead of emp# i dunno
p_8:   buffy, i pm you, did u see it?
Buffy_04364:   yes tks already sent it
p_8:   thx
p_8:   back to chopzone
(03:37 PM) wicre:   is anyone experiencing frozen ES and NQ data with ensign esignal?
(03:37 PM) Buffy_04364:   I did this morning but didn't have demo off
(03:37 PM) QSuzy:   not here wicre
(03:38 PM) Buffy_04364:   all other times have been no volume
(03:38 PM) txsbum:   did any one hav trouble this morning with qcharts?
(03:38 PM) wicre:   thanx...the problem must be on my end then!both ES and NQ has been frozen 
now for over 10 minutes! :(
(03:39 PM) Buffy_04364:   do a tracert
(03:39 PM) Daniel X:   i think ppl seem to forget that with all these patterns and indicators and trade systems and 
different styles all we're really trading is the next traders mind and what he or she thinks will happen next
(03:39 PM) wicre:   I have a bond chart on Buffy, and that one is working..
(03:39 PM) Buffy_04364:   208.240.76.1 is esignal server
(03:39 PM) wicre:   thnx
(03:39 PM) Buffy_04364:   oh ok
(03:40 PM) hansp1:   wicre, not your problem. Have experienced the same. Workaround is to change 
workspace.
(03:41 PM) Daniel X:   if the majority thinks were going up then they'll buy it ..etc
(03:41 PM) tippet:   nq brk up out of channel
(03:41 PM) ppusa:   was oversold at low...tested and held
(03:41 PM) wicre:   ok, I will..thnx
(03:41 PM) dave_b_quik:   good point, Dan, gotta keep it simple
(03:41 PM) QSuzy:   txs.....not many qchart users here but lots of ex-qchart users.....many of us jumped ship 
about a year ago....maybe it's gotten better since so many left.
(03:42 PM) ppusa:   today not much talk about indicators and all
(03:42 PM) ppusa:   strictly price action and trendlines
(03:42 PM) Buffy_04364:   nope just TLs and price action
(03:42 PM) Daniel X:   yes and i like it
(03:42 PM) Buffy_04364:   with few comments on bline and pyra
(03:42 PM) Buffy_04364:   :-)
(03:42 PM) ppusa:   if you look at this rally it was initiated off retrace to broken trendline and then tested and held
(03:43 PM) ppusa:   yea occasional ma's too
(03:43 PM) ppusa:   mentioned PnF
(03:43 PM) Buffy_04364:   yep T usually waits for retest at least she used to
(03:43 PM) txsbum:   its a little better than it was a year ago suzy, havnt used anything else to 
compare it to
(03:43 PM) p_8:   ES almost break Ro4 on 15min
(03:43 PM) Buffy_04364:   I wouldn't even think of going back to it
(03:44 PM) txsbum:   is this a rallly?
(03:44 PM) ppusa:   also 3 humper
(03:44 PM) Buffy_04364:   whoops sorry shouldn't of really said that
(03:44 PM) Buffy_04364:   it works well for many
(03:44 PM) ppusa:   pattern recognition which was nothing more than retrace to broken trendline
(03:44 PM) txsbum:   what u use buffy?
(03:44 PM) Buffy_04364:   was retracement - pause coming
(03:44 PM) Buffy_04364:   IMO
(03:44 PM) Buffy_04364:   Qcharts
(03:44 PM) txsbum:   imo
(03:45 PM) ppusa:   now if can maintain the focus
(03:45 PM) Buffy_04364:   in my opinion
(03:45 PM) Buffy_04364:   ok pp
(03:45 PM) tomsurf:   Buffy you gonna be here for a few mins after close?
(03:45 PM) Buffy_04364:   just waiting for retracement
(03:46 PM) Buffy_04364:   yes
(03:46 PM) tomsurf:   ok ;-0
(03:46 PM) Buffy_04364:   will be
(03:46 PM) tomsurf:   :-)
(03:46 PM) txsbum:   its goin keep on goin up
(03:46 PM) txsbum:   long from 23.50
(03:46 PM) ppusa:   back to that line buffy drew
(03:47 PM) Daniel X:   hold it around fv into the close i suspect..emphasis on suspect..flat and staying that way
(03:47 PM) ppusa:   midpoint of daily range is right here
(03:47 PM) ppusa:   PnF says pb 6 points
(03:47 PM) Buffy_04364:   wonder if more pp
(03:48 PM) Buffy_04364:   most proably not
(03:48 PM) ppusa:   could be a little left
(03:48 PM) Daniel X:   ys that pb will put NQ right @ fv 94
(03:48 PM) ppusa:   right here is resting on andrews
(03:48 PM) ppusa:   went through a bit and restingon
(03:48 PM) txsbum:   who is andrew?
(03:49 PM) ppusa:   i lost my focus at the low and missed it
(03:49 PM) Daniel X:   andrews pitch fork?
(03:49 PM) p_8:   pitchfork
(03:49 PM) txsbum:   oh
(03:49 PM) ppusa:   Andrews pitchfork
(03:49 PM) Daniel X:   k
(03:49 PM) txsbum:   gotcha
(03:49 PM) tomsurf:   Mr. Fork
(03:50 PM) ppusa:   i think because there is no volume....was.....that this is trader's fighting among 
themselves....not a trend
(03:50 PM) Daniel X:   all locals
(03:50 PM) ppusa:   i don't know....just a guess
(03:50 PM) Buffy_04364:   well long off flag
(03:50 PM) ppusa:   that could be why it came all the way back
(03:50 PM) brach:   out of towners, more likely
(03:51 PM) Daniel X:   lol out of towners!
(03:51 PM) Buffy_04364:   3 hills failled on this earlier
(03:51 PM) Buffy_04364:   don't trust those things
(03:51 PM) txsbum:   it hit the support area of yesterdays low...rallyn to come 2morrow also
(03:51 PM) RJ -:   brach LOL
(03:51 PM) txsbum:   rally
(03:51 PM) ppusa:   6 was the high 
(03:51 PM) brach:   that's right. if it doesn't work 100% or time, toss it
(03:52 PM) ppusa:   that andrews thing worked well there
(03:52 PM) shoemaker1:   ticks 885
(03:52 PM) tomsurf:   lol, ya we want 100% for sure guarantee ;-)
(03:52 PM) brach:   so did the old fashioned trendline
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364:   LOL not that so much brach as why bother when the price action is just as 
easy for me to read
(03:52 PM) Daniel X:   careful here
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364:   flat
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364:   tagged tos
(03:53 PM) brach:   actually, 3 valleys worked quite weel in catching the LOD
(03:53 PM) Buffy_04364:   so didn't other stuff
(03:53 PM) Buffy_04364:   which is easier for me
(03:53 PM) ppusa:   nothing like coming in and hindsighting 
(03:53 PM) brach:   3 humps is for catchin a high
(03:54 PM) Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-4M_Pyra_NQ24.gif
(03:54 PM) Buffy_04364:   like the reanchor there
(03:54 PM) tomsurf:   yes Buffy it lookin good
(03:55 PM) tomsurf:   branch- you look for 3 valleys to catch a poss. low?
(03:55 PM) Buffy_04364:   for you ES fans
(03:55 PM) Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-4M_Pyra_ES25.gif
(03:55 PM) tomsurf:   or a possible turning point?
(03:55 PM) brach:   yes, tom
(03:55 PM) tomsurf:   ok, thx
(03:55 PM) brach:   just another way of saying 5-wave wedge
(03:56 PM) brach:   nothing new
(03:56 PM) grant92:   anyone in here using retro trader ???
(03:56 PM) brach:   a rose by any other name..
(03:56 PM) Buffy_04364:   have to post that for this bottom don't see it off hand tks
(03:57 PM) tomsurf:   branch- yes I understand. But you are good at and see price movement in EW 
terms and others need a more simple view sometimes ;-)
(03:57 PM) Buffy_04364:   retrace tiem pp?
(03:57 PM) Buffy_04364:   tiem = time
(03:58 PM) Daniel X:   PP...sitting at the 1403 from tis am...dont remember the significance
(03:58 PM) ppusa:   midpoint
(03:58 PM) Daniel X:   k
(03:58 PM) ppusa:   was
(03:58 PM) ppusa:   buffy 6 point says due
(03:58 PM) tomsurf:   heck, a while ago I thought waves were only for surfing :-)
(03:59 PM) QSuzy:   tomsurf.....lol
(03:59 PM) brach:   3 valleys and old fashioned trendline: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-
04/Brach_3_valleys.jpg
(03:59 PM) tomsurf:   thx for the example 
(04:00 PM) txsbum:   is this a rallly??
(04:00 PM) ppusa:   was
(04:00 PM) Daniel X:   still suspect close to FVsettle
(04:00 PM) ppusa:   which is where now?
(04:01 PM) Daniel X:   94 on NQ 26 on ES
(04:02 PM) tomsurf:   nice ex. brach
(04:02 PM) ppusa:   94 is down there a bit
(04:03 PM) Daniel X:   not a technical #
(04:03 PM) shoemaker1:   failed test?
(04:03 PM) ppusa:   of?
(04:04 PM) txsbum:   stp at 26
(04:04 PM) shoemaker1:   1406
(04:04 PM) ppusa:   so far
(04:04 PM) Buffy_04364:   from a different perspective
(04:04 PM) Buffy_04364:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-04-04/B-5M_ES26.gif
(04:05 PM) txsbum:   http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SP/62
(04:05 PM) Daniel X:   is there a relevant company expected to say anything tonight?
(04:06 PM) ppusa:   closed
(04:06 PM) Buffy_04364:   don't know daniel
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   buffy overbot
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   wonder if we will give it all back tomorrow like we did thismorning
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   hit 62 percent retrace
(04:10 PM) Daniel X:   ES sitting right at FV NQ a little above but not much
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   but closed
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   i am done 
(04:10 PM) Daniel X:   though there might be some expected news for NQ to hold up here
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   going to depend on the numbers in the morning I guess
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   if i was going to try for extra points i wold short the dbs
(04:10 PM) Daniel X:   *thought
(04:10 PM) tomsurf:   Buffy- my question was, can I just have one chart on my workspace designated 
for all sessions?
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   gee everyone gone already??
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   the odds of getting a profit between now and close or not good imo
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   are
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   if someone can read this please type somethng so I know room is still 
working
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   hmmm
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   tks
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   might be an outside day
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   yes
(04:10 PM) Daniel X:   FV is slightly above cash
(04:10 PM) Daniel X:   ah yes thats right
(04:10 PM) Buffy_04364:   my tick charts are all sessions and M charts aren't
(04:10 PM) ppusa:   you kknow still in the expanded triangle :)
(04:10 PM) Daniel X:   6 points roughly
(04:10 PM) tomsurf:   was, thinkn same...funny how days action repeats itself at times
(04:11 PM) Buffy_04364:   bring up properties window for chart and either check or uncheck day 
session only
(04:11 PM) tomsurf:   cool, I'll give it a try....I didn't know that, LOL
(04:11 PM) Buffy_04364:   works well
(04:12 PM) tomsurf:   I mean I've seen it but sometimes when everything is workin good, I hate to 
change anything ;-)
(04:12 PM) ppusa:   what is report tomorrow?
(04:12 PM) txsbum:   flat + 3
(04:12 PM) Daniel X:   good work today everyone...hope everyone got some..tomorrow Am should be 
interesting...dunno about the aft though
(04:12 PM) Daniel X:   employment
(04:13 PM) ppusa:   tomorrow's report i think very important...employment has always been good judge of 
economy
(04:13 PM) txsbum:   goin rally 2morrow
(04:13 PM) tomsurf:   txs, lol
(04:14 PM) tomsurf:   unless it doesn't ;-)
(04:14 PM) ppusa:   whether anyone got some or not i think a lot harder to lose when good focus
(04:14 PM) txsbum:   for real
(04:14 PM) tomsurf:   pp- true and can learn alot more for the next day 
(04:14 PM) zentigerr:   Whats up:)
(04:14 PM) ppusa:   there are many good rooms on PalTalk
(04:14 PM) txsbum:   http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SP/62
(04:14 PM) ppusa:   many choices
(04:15 PM) zentigerr:   Yes there are:)
(04:15 PM) ppusa:   like that zen room
(04:15 PM) zentigerr:   Like mine, haha
(04:15 PM) Buffy_04364:   hi zentigerr
(04:15 PM) zentigerr:   How did you guys do today:)
(04:15 PM) Buffy_04364:   fine here
(04:15 PM) ppusa:   we caught every good move
(04:15 PM) ppusa:   isn't that right
(04:15 PM) zentigerr:   Kewl
(04:16 PM) ppusa:   think about it
(04:16 PM) Buffy_04364:   even some 1-3 pointers here
(04:16 PM) ppusa:   except the am
(04:16 PM) ppusa:   we got the HOd cold
(04:16 PM) zentigerr:   20.50 for me a good day
(04:16 PM) Buffy_04364:   pyra caught the bottom
(04:16 PM) ppusa:   got the low of the second pullback
(04:16 PM) zentigerr:   Am was good mid day too much chop
(04:16 PM) Buffy_04364:   nice zentigerr
(04:16 PM) ppusa:   waited for lunch
(04:16 PM) tomsurf:   congrats Zen
(04:16 PM) ppusa:   woulld anyone disagree????
(04:16 PM) cluetrain:   i had a nice soft boiled egg this morning
(04:17 PM) argentino_24:   hola 
(04:17 PM) tomsurf:   naw pp- you made good obsevations today with a min. of babble ;-)
(04:17 PM) txsbum:   hola, como estas?
(04:18 PM) tomsurf:   you were on buddy
(04:18 PM) ppusa:   love the way u put that
(04:18 PM) tomsurf:   :-)
(04:18 PM) cluetrain:   hola amigo, estamos ocupado con el dinero
(04:18 PM) txsbum:   ci way
(04:18 PM) ppusa:   well something to think about 'cos i like rooms that are focused...hint hint
(04:18 PM) txsbum:   ake tha
(04:18 PM) tomsurf:   naw, just sometimes ya lose me...today no problem ;-0
(04:19 PM) cluetrain:   ok, ok pp, you're right...
(04:19 PM) tomsurf:   really emjoyed it
(04:19 PM) ppusa:   i think that mid day chat helped
(04:19 PM) ppusa:   got everyone centered
(04:19 PM) txsbum:   donde estas?
(04:19 PM) ppusa:   anyway enough
(04:19 PM) ppusa:   i enjoyed it....i made some... thanks..... and bye
(04:20 PM) tomsurf:   have a good one pp :-)
(04:20 PM) cluetrain:   no hablamos espanol aqui
(04:20 PM) cluetrain:   lo ciento
(04:20 PM) zentigerr:   Por K
(04:20 PM) cluetrain:   LOL zen
(04:20 PM) txsbum:   oh ok
(04:20 PM) zentigerr:   Buno donda ew sta usted
(04:21 PM) cluetrain:   lol
(04:21 PM) zentigerr:   rofl
(04:21 PM) tomsurf:   lol zen 
(04:21 PM) Buffy_04364:   boy the day went fast today
(04:21 PM) zentigerr:   My spanish teacher laughed too hard to teach me well
(04:21 PM) tomsurf:   yes it did
(04:22 PM) tomsurf:   I bet
(04:22 PM) cluetrain:   hey, someone on yahoo IB Users board described how to feed IB data to 
Tradestation
(04:22 PM) cluetrain:   anyone want the info?
(04:23 PM) tomsurf:   cool, would be nice to feed it to Ensign, lol
(04:23 PM) cluetrain:   lol
(04:23 PM) justtrade:   do any of you find ensign to be kind of buggy?
(04:24 PM) tomsurf:   just... my experiance has been solid as a rock
(04:24 PM) justtrade:   how do you change a time frame without changing the color scheme