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raz_62:
i placed this on the chart at 1517
raz_62:
at the 37% level
jimmer49:
gm all
raz_62:
gm
raz_62:
pp you here
ppusa:
yes
ppusa:
going down on open
raz_62:
what do you think of the chart?
ppusa:
nice colors
raz_62:
he he
tippet:
globex low is way down there
Tom_B:
anyone sell 54 area ?
tomsurf:
tippet- sure is
ppusa:
recent bounce high was hit 50 bar ma so i am hoping that holds for am and lower...we willl see
ppusa:
pattern is steep so i think potential down first
Daniel X: ok ...traders are saying a breach of 1425...1300 to 1250
Daniel X: beleive it or not
dave_b_quik:
g'morning traders!
Tom_B:
pessimist
raz_62:
they must be looking at my gann charts
johnl96:
hi dave, daniel
Daniel X: those #s have been right since i've been posting them
raz_62:
daily says 1312
Daniel X: good morning
Daniel X: could be raz!
Hollie_:
cup and handle
Daniel X: hmm no real Ga trade this am
Daniel X: Gap
Daniel X: 44/38 support
Daniel X: look for a quick spike to the globex overnight
johnl96:
what tf hollie?
Daniel X: 53 /58 upside
Tom_B:
smax buy ?
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Daniel X: me no buy
Daniel X: till 53 to 58 clears
Hollie_: yesterday, 5 min
ppusa:
nq is holding 20 bar na at 1440 area
ppusa:
ma
ppusa:
break of that put it on defensive
johnl96:
thx
ppusa:
sold q's
tippet:
10am #'s
tippet:
globex low 25?
Buffy_04364:
yes
tippet:
PPT out overnight
dave_b_quik:
buffy, did you make it to the ensign class yesterday?
Buffy_04364:
no I did not and didn't see anything new posted
Buffy_04364:
:-(
Buffy_04364:
did you go?
ppusa:
support is here
ppusa:
break it and down i think
ppusa:
20 bar ma
1goods:
hello Dorkiest
Dorkiest:
Hi goods
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tippet:
SOX selling
ppusa:
whew that was close
ppusa:
till short
ppusa:
still
ppusa:
not over yet
ppusa:
referring to the suspense
tippet:
be one with the dark side
ppusa:
better now
raz_62:
S43.5
ppusa:
hour chart doesn't look like it should do a uturn
ppusa:
don't forget reports though
jimmer49:
what reports?
Daniel X: 38 support ounce
tomsurf:
SOX test of yest. low...see what happens now.
ppusa:
i don't know...i will look i thought someone said reports
Daniel X: initila was at 8:30
Daniel X: initial jobless
jimmer49:
no other reports until tomorrow according to briefing
ppusa:
good enough for me...was going to check
Daniel X: a 30 min close below 38 will take us to 1400
ppusa:
vcovered
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ppusa:
still think lower but no guts here
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Daniel X: i cannot think of a reason for it to go up PP
Daniel X: no guts..take b/e
Daniel X: thats all
ppusa:
15 min BB support
ppusa:
head and shoulders on 15 too
ppusa:
sloppy but a similar one the other day turned higher
ppusa:
symmetrical 1-2-3
ann_87:
yest low 36.50
johnl96:
anyone else having problems with ensign? my es charts keep freaking out on me.
ppusa:
look at my 5 miinute chart ann and raz
Dotcoza:
Ensign Ok
ppusa:
hammer buy on 5
raz_62:
out e l43.5
ppusa:
so far went from lower side of bb to middle of bb....see what happens next
Daniel X: Dbank and merril sold from the top
Daniel X: 52
ppusa:
one thing i question is why all of a sudden the market has to go 100 points lower but it doesn't matter because time will tell
google_2:
morning
raz_62:
morning stranger
Rose0001:
Hi, Google.
ppusa:
i have bb support on several time frames at that low...hopefully price will slide down it cos i would like to take a shot at going long today in the right setup
tomsurf:
morning googs
ann_87:
hi google
google_2:
l45
MartyJ01:
hi google
Daniel X: looka like the continuation of yesterdays chop
raz_62:
thats for sure
raz_62:
bad sign when the open chops
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Daniel X: the move usually comes a little later is all...for me anyways
ppusa:
middle of BB here on 5 minute
ann_87:
trin is .65 nyse
google_2:
flat
Daniel X: if i add 15 to the low of 35.50 i get 50.50..i'm assumming we'll chop in that area
Daniel X: hope i'm wrong
ppusa:
normally if there is an outside up day it will start after 10:30 pst
tomsurf:
ann, yes and no neg ticks push yet
google_2:
l45
ppusa:
notice i put pst 'cos that's where the action is
ann_87:
yes i see no sell [pressure
Daniel X: PP what...did wall street move to PST?!lol
ppusa:
working a rule of 4 on the hour chart
raz_62:
out 43
ppusa:
wallstreet right here...downtown La Jolla
google_2:
flat -2
johnl96:
ADD finally moving
johnl96:
down
ppusa:
did anyone notice the gap in this area on the daily from way back?
google_2:
still looking for long entry
ppusa:
intraday gap
Daniel X: still looking for a short
Daniel X: as long as 38 holds god sign for a long
Daniel X: good
ppusa:
gut says lower until 10:30
ppusa:
1:30
tippet:
may be building inv h&s here rt shoulder now
ppusa:
i would love to see a double top here...the kind that says break me later
Daniel X: locals switching gears to long side but cisco being ignored by largercaps..hence the chop
ann_87:
or dbl bottom
ppusa:
with an arrow that points to here
google_2:
open pattern bearish so far
ppusa:
ann...tonight you are going to bed early
ann_87:
hourly buy divergence..we'll see
Daniel X: yes ..neg..if we cannot muster a drive to openning lows and stay up there
ppusa:
bo more words from me...we will see
ppusa:
no more
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Daniel X: indices mixed
raz_62:
S39.5
Daniel X: 1rst tier stocks mixed
johnl96:
I'm not sure if that was technically 3 humps on the 3 min es, but I'm going to pretend it was
tippet:
nice raz
Daniel X: we shold be going down but those not invited will get stopped out....lol
google_2:
s35.5
raz_62:
out
raz_62:
+6
ppusa:
nice raz
Daniel X: raz hold one b/e
ppusa:
trade it
google_2:
hs on es 5 min
johnl96:
add negative
ppusa:
just reenter with mental stop at b/e
tippet:
got poke the bottom of down channel on nq
Daniel X: i hate when we all know where it's going but chopped on the way
ppusa:
and add
ppusa:
someone tried to hijack a plane????
Daniel X: what!!???
ppusa:
caught
p_8:
where pp?
Daniel X: excuse to dump...lol
ppusa:
rumor
ppusa:
know nothing yet
google_2:
vblock
Daniel X: you what i said about fast move to 25
tippet:
fibs ndx daily? have 1412 as 50%
google_2:
out 1+5.5
ppusa:
there will be bottom pickers all am
ppusa:
always is
Daniel X: not if we breach 25
ppusa:
not going up until it burns them out
ppusa:
high is 64? how big a range do you expect today?
ppusa:
1474 low...lower tomorrow?
ppusa:
sorry 1374
Daniel X: it's a matter of neg #s...and traders not wanting to own at these low prices

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ppusa:
i agree...i've been talking about a slam....so not a buyer unless i see 1400 hold late in day
ppusa:
flag?
tippet:
potential hijack news hits major news station
ppusa:
cnbc has enron hearing so no news there
tippet:
miami to argentina flight
johnl96:
ADD flatlining again
ppusa:
in and out on flag
rich012:
tippett, where'd you get that news. The major news networks have nothing on that
ppusa:
sholda stayed
wolfblz:
next level 1426/7
tippet:
MSNBC
ppusa:
shoot
ppusa:
me
google_2:
vbolck still in effect
rich012:
msnbc now has it again
johnl96:
short es
raz_62:
hey you never splained that one
ppusa:
most news stations are covering enron
ppusa:
alert
raz_62:
this is twice you whipped it out
ppusa:
are scare
ppusa:
miami to bueno
rich012:
pilot hit the potential hijacker ofver the head with an ax OUCH
tippet:
"vbolck" ????
ppusa:
tried to force way into cockpit
ppusa:
restrained
Tom_B:
YaMon !!
ppusa:
cool rich
rich012:
landed in Argentina
Tom_B:
curious which way axe was...
ppusa:
haha
rich012:
:-)
google_2:
out +7 flat
Tom_B:
cvrd
ppusa:
raz you talking to me?
raz_62:
no
strad -:
I have 1426 as initial support, then 1417
ppusa:
k
ann_87:
good one google
johnl96:
out, flat
ppusa:
anyone get the flag short?
ann_87:
globex low test
Tom_B:
Pieces
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ppusa:
3 humps down on hour chart
ppusa:
last 3 days lows
ppusa:
not a buyer
raz_62:
we need to see 16 to 13
tippet:
looks wedgyish on that 60minchart pp
ppusa:
1417 50%... i agree
Daniel X: 1430 major pivotal area
raz_62:
leg and arc on 60 min chart???
google_2:
that's a schneitzen on hourly
ppusa:
sure would look nice to extend it 2 or 3 bars
strad -:
1445 pivotal for me
ppusa:
resis
raz_62:
now i have to learn the diff in schnitzen and arc
tippet:
schitzen comes on a bun
johnl96:
schnitzen goes with saurkraut raz
tkay_1:
hi
raz_62:
could io please have 1 schnitzen 2 arc's and a vblock on the side please
ppusa:
what's a vblock
google_2:
sun tan lotion
ppusa:
oh gee
pender:
327 chevy
google_2:
s39
ppusa:
that's what i thought.automotive engine.
ppusa:
but i guessed i asked a flat head
johnl96:
short es 82
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strad -:
long 36.00
johnl96:
got burned on a couple of these yesterday when add wasn't moving but...
google_2:
out 1 +4
ppusa:
trading lower channel bb
ppusa:
go fool around the HOD?
google_2:
flat
ann_87:
smax buy 39?
ppusa:
if this goes up first and comes down later big slam
ppusa:
upper channel Ann
jimmer49:
continuation
ann_87:
if a continuation ignore channel
ppusa:
right
tkay_1:
hmm continuation.. up?
ppusa:
but it is not the best looking buy i've seen on smax
ppusa:
3 and 6 due for reversals
ppusa:
resis here
google_2:
s42
ppusa:
midchannel on 5 min bb
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strad -:
covered +4
johnl96:
add's still saying down
ppusa:
ann see how this came down ... smax entry not the best
google_2:
out 1 +3
ppusa:
counting humps
jimmer49:
stops just need to be tighter on those continuations
Daniel X: we've had the move to 25 as target so thinking will hold for now as the low
tkay_1:
i dont c what that was continautin of
ppusa:
trend is a little tomuch up for me to jump in short yet...i am wondering if this will be a 3 humper?
Daniel X: 40 being the top of the chop zone
Daniel X: we'll see
ppusa:
6 point could still use a correction
amer_68:
jimmer: How tight?
Tom_B:
got sme up press hre
ppusa:
tkay took out a swing
google_2:
flat - 1.5
Daniel X: sorry 46
ppusa:
trend up
ppusa:
have a long way to go to upper bb
google_2:
s42
ppusa:
3 humps i think
jimmer49:
amer - no rule, but I usually say 3 - point is continuations should work right away or will likely fail
tkay_1:
pp: o
Daniel X: locals are sellers at this 1440 area placing bets they'll be at the top of the range
amer_68:
Tks.
google_2:
flat -2
Daniel X: goes through they'll get antsy and want to cover
Daniel X: and they do
johnl96:
who are these punks who are bidding this thing up on no volume?
amer_68:
jimmer: retraced exactly 5 pts from top of my 10:53 bar.
Daniel X: locals
amer_68:
A number of retraces have been 5 or 5.5 points lately.
johnl96:
i take that back
johnl96:
volume's pretty good actually
Tom_B:
s
Daniel X: stops up here
Daniel X: after the 40 went some covered
ppusa:
3 humps now?
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Tom_B:
B/e
ann_87:
trin remains low
ppusa:
oh well looks like long fornow
Daniel X: longs above 38 to 44 area
Daniel X: 53 to 58 1rst res
tomsurf:
looks like chimp had it figured out....dam chimp, lol
tkay_1:
hod test
ppusa:
john and ann
strad -:
tsurf lol
raz_62:
woops my channels long from 36.5 didnt take the signal
strad -:
62.50 target
Rose0001:
Yes, when 15EMA1 turned up on chimp, time to go long. I didn't do it, though. :-(
google_2:
s55
ppusa:
54.5 here
johnl96:
does anyone have an explanation for all these long green bars?
ppusa:
covered one
tomsurf:
Rose- hate it when the chimp is smarter than us, lol
tkay_1:
doji at hod formed
Rose0001:
LOL
raz_62:
gotta have them so we can have some long red ones without getting to 0
Rose0001:
I didn't trust him. LOL
tkay_1:
chimp gets killed in ranges
ppusa:
John are you still long?
Rose0001:
Yes, chimp is horrible in range.
tomsurf:
actually, I get a kick out of it....chimp has no preconcieved ideas ;-)
nell6:
chimp?
Daniel X: John ..locals covering..gets the bars yo speak of
tomsurf:
nell- can read here http://www.enthios.com/trading/the_cross.htm
Rose0001:
Nell: http://www.enthios.com/trading/the_cross.htm
google_2:
flat
Daniel X: and us 2 to 5 contracttraders
johnl96:
never went long pp
tkay_1:
what they are doin now is shakin out everyone betting either way on hod
tkay_1:
i hate this
Tom_B:
59 pop coming..then ?
ppusa:
looks like LOD right now
Rose0001:
Chimp says we go higher.
ppusa:
no short here unless i see the low go later
johnl96:
thanks, daniel, you seem to be tight with them, would you tell them to cut it out please?
google_2:
1561
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google_2:
1461
jimmer49:
Who the hell is "they" ?
ppusa:
of course i will
Tom_B:
teasing..
ppusa:
short
ppusa:
scaklp
Daniel X: lol John
raz_62:
merrill lynch they=he
raz_62:
or so the famous gully says
Daniel X: locals = they ..Jimmer
google_2:
s55
ann_87:
56.50 low of 2 day's ago
Daniel X: 53 to 58 is the tuff area
jimmer49:
"they" are all trading for themselves, not in concert with each other
Daniel X: Jimmer they follow each others lead
ppusa:
SP and Dow are almost through yesterday's high
nell6:
chimp method , will cause you to get whipsaw
Rose0001:
1456.5 low end of LSS sell envelope, 1457.7 PIVOT and 1457 GLobex high.
Daniel X: i'm getting thsi stuff off the floor "live"
Daniel X: and it has not been wrong yet
rich012:
"they" is anyone who causes gully's trades to go bad
jimmer49:
selective memory daniel I think
Daniel X: you think
rich012:
Are the EW fibs able to sound alerts yet?
tomsurf:
Daniel- is that info. from connections or a service?
Daniel X: evry move they've made i knew
amer_68:
Isn't that a turtle on the 5 min?
Daniel X: it's a service
ppusa:
if dow and sp fail here later on big sell off
google_2:
tom I'll give you after close couple of sites
TheBigD:
what's the service?
google_2:
they're cheap
tomsurf:
googs, thx :-)
johnl96:
I don't see a turtle on the 5 min amer
johnl96:
didn't satisfy the close criterion
Daniel X: Jimmer i cannot evry single trade but i do get the sentiment and where they are looking to short and buy
amer_68:
5 o5 6 min naz
johnl96:
and then keep it to yourself
johnl96:
Daniel
johnl96:
:)
Daniel X: no..i tey to share when i can...i am trading you know!
google_2:
you sqwak a lot
amer_68:
tks john,
google_2:
:-)
strad -:
lol
Tom_B:
cud rotate dwn frm here a bit
Daniel X: oh do i?
MartyJ01:
lol
jimmer49:
Daniel - so you say they somehow telegraph what they are planning to do before they do it?
ppusa:
short q's
johnl96:
I think what the locals are really saying is "Go after John's stops"
Daniel X: so if you think my "sqwak" as you say does't help..then..no more info...kewl?
google_2:
joking dan
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tkay_1:
i dont doubt locals sometimes legally collude against the "paper"
tkay_1:
in a small way of course
QSuzy:
Daniel.....keep sqwaking...
Buffy_04364:
daniel please continue with your "sqwak" - I know many do appreciate ti
Buffy_04364:
L:-)
Buffy_04364:
see
pete77_1:
Yes, for sure
ppusa:
KNOCK IT OFF
ppusa:
trying to trade
tippet:
pp -have us retesting wedge brkout on 60min from above
Daniel X: Jimmer i have a service of a trader off the floor and he pretty much knows what #s make them move in which direction etc etc
jimmer49:
I am surprised he would share such info with many
Daniel X: why not?

p_8:
doesn't matter what the locals do, it won't be able hurt us if we trade to our system, tkay
ppusa:
wondering if i should buy a dip?
Rose0001:
Daniel, that's why you are our "Sqwak" box. I think that what google meant.
jean2:
keep it up Danial - you've been very correct these last few days..
Tom_B:
there are, were 2 services that do this..
jimmer49:
If everyone has the same advantage, then no one has an advantgage
ppusa:
i get buy signals slightly higher ...i think i made a mistake
Daniel X: it's pay back for the anallists who shared their info a fews years ago
google_2:
yes dan I'm also appreciative of what you say
tkay_1:
long here maybe
google_2:
flat
TurnSig:
Enough of this suspense Dan; what are the service names???
ppusa:
a lot of people think this is going to go up and i have a feeling they will kill them
ppusa:
sellit off later
ppusa:
still short
google_2:
s53
Tom_B:
s
johnl96:
short es
Daniel X: well at 11 am we were at 1440 so + 15 is 55
Daniel X: thinking chop zone
ppusa:
if you guys have good entries you could try for new low i donot know whether we should overall be buyers or sellers
ann_87:
making right shoulder?
ppusa:
have to decide whether to buy a flag or stay short...if there is a flag to be bought
ppusa:
the double tops are indications that gonna go higher
Daniel X: 53/58 has to hold as support
Daniel X: for longs
(11:31 AM) Daniel X: take it as you want
Rose0001:
Thank you Daniel. We all appreciate it.
(11:32 AM) Daniel X: right
(11:32 AM) google_2:
flat
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(11:33 AM) ppusa:
low of current hour
(11:33 AM) ppusa:
yuck
(11:35 AM) tkay_1:
this is a "rinse job"
(11:36 AM) raz_62:
this is yesterdays chop range
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364:
sure is tkay
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364:
that is true too raz
(11:36 AM) tomsurf:
tkay- as in rinse out the shorts?
(11:36 AM) Daniel X: well John.. 11 am low was 1440 add 15 and where do we go and fail?
(11:36 AM) jimmer49:
Daniel - as my final comment on the matter - my only problem is when you expressed your inside pit info as though it was a certainty, which it can never be.
(11:37 AM) johnl96:
saw that daniel, thanks
(11:37 AM) Daniel X: not a certainty Jimmer just high probability
(11:37 AM) google_2:
1091 on es critical
(11:38 AM) TheBigD:
Daniel are you listening to Ben Lichtenstein?
(11:38 AM) google_2:
for upside b/o
(11:38 AM) Buffy_04364:
which we hope all our trades are :-)
(11:38 AM) ppusa:
if this takes out 50 will have about 3 ticks to decide where next move will be
(11:38 AM) Daniel X: no TBO
(11:38 AM) ann_87:
trin .57
(11:38 AM) google_2:
what's TBO?
(11:38 AM) ppusa:
covering
(11:39 AM) Tom_B:
l
(11:39 AM) google_2:
l56
(11:39 AM) Daniel X: no The Big D sorry thought it was an " O"
(11:40 AM) rich012:
BigO, you listen to Ben?
(11:41 AM) Daniel X: no i was responding to TBD
(11:41 AM) Daniel X: TheBigD
(11:41 AM) Daniel X: thought it was an O
(11:41 AM) TheBigD:
no
(11:41 AM) google_2:
ok thanks
(11:43 AM) ppusa:
lots of buy signals
(11:43 AM) google_2:
1461-65 on nq critical
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(11:43 AM) ppusa:
dow and sp have higher highs
(11:44 AM) google_2:
out 1 +4
(11:45 AM) google_2:
against channel
(11:45 AM) ann_87:
trin .50
(11:45 AM) ppusa:
decision time
(11:45 AM) johnl96:
Chimp's been quiet lately
(11:45 AM) ppusa:
looks overbought
(11:46 AM) ann_87:
1481 1.2 would be equal lenth swing
(11:46 AM) ppusa:
but buy signals
(11:46 AM) johnl96:
es yest hi broken
(11:47 AM) rich012:
I tried Ben's squawk service...didn
(11:47 AM) rich012:
didn't help
(11:47 AM) ppusa:
dow too
(11:47 AM) ppusa:
short
(11:48 AM) raz_62:
short on buy signals
(11:48 AM) raz_62:
thats confusing
(11:48 AM) ppusa:
yes
(11:48 AM) Daniel X: i've been using the service for about 5 weeks,took about 2 weeks to learn how to use the info and it been right on
(11:48 AM) ppusa:
hoping they reverse
(11:48 AM) google_2:
out +4 flat
(11:48 AM) raz_62:
i think you may have hit it
(11:49 AM) raz_62:
i had a selllimit at 66
(11:49 AM) Tom_B:
s
(11:49 AM) raz_62:
dangit
(11:49 AM) Doctor Zaius:
so what's the trick, DanielX?
(11:49 AM) rich012:
daniel, did you ever tell us where you get the info?
(11:50 AM) Daniel X: oh sorry ...sign up for a free trial and you'll see for yourself..it's Brad Sullivan over at teach trade
(11:51 AM) google_2:
borsellino boys
(11:51 AM) Daniel X: yep
(11:51 AM) johnl96:
what?
(11:51 AM) TurnSig:
Thanks Daniel.
(11:52 AM) Daniel X: welcome
(11:52 AM) rich012:
I tried the trial once before...it must not have been long enough for me to understand how to use it.
(11:52 AM) MartyJ01:
teachtrade.com
(11:52 AM) johnl96:
k
(11:52 AM) johnl96:
what's borsellino boys
(11:52 AM) ann_87:
56.50 support?
(11:52 AM) hanksterr:
dan, www.realtimefutures.com michael merman does similar service
(11:52 AM) strad -:
google...big Italy and little Italy
(11:53 AM) google_2:
he works for L. Borsellino
(11:53 AM) Daniel X: 2 weeks should do it..but you also need to know a little mileage before you use it
(11:53 AM) strad -:
:-)
(11:53 AM) google_2:
yes strad lol
(11:53 AM) jean2:
Ihope now that you told us, you don't stop talking DanielX...
(11:53 AM) Daniel X: damn right i wil

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(11:54 AM) jean2:
:(
(11:54 AM) google_2:
you're a pro you should be able to take a light joke
(11:54 AM) Daniel X: it's only $100/month come on..
(11:55 AM) jean2:
how is smax doing today?
(11:56 AM) ppusa:
need to break 50
(11:57 AM) Tom_B:
s
(11:57 AM) ppusa:
200 to buy at 56
(11:57 AM) google_2:
s57.5
(12:00 PM) Michaelaf:
hi anyone know about a wave audio input error...i can get no sound on my speakers and cannot talk on paltalk because somehow i have no active mixer device?
(12:01 PM) alan123:
go to help rooms
(12:01 PM) Tom_B:
PalTLk Help room might help
(12:01 PM) Michaelaf:
theuy did not know
(12:01 PM) jean2:
We don't talk in here during day
(12:01 PM) Michaelaf:
maybe a computer help room
(12:02 PM) Tom_B:
try it...trading now
(12:02 PM) Michaelaf:
ok bye
(12:02 PM) ann_87:
smax buy at 59?
(12:02 PM) Michaelaf:
good luck
(12:02 PM) google_2:
flat
(12:03 PM) FrankT:
macd divergent
(12:03 PM) Tom_B:
+1 :)
(12:03 PM) ppusa:
flat too
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(12:04 PM) Tom_B:
going into scalp mode, imo
(12:04 PM) ppusa:
compx so far is far away from yesterday's high
(12:05 PM) tkay_1:
long here
(12:05 PM) ann_87:
58.50 was then smax long i think
(12:05 PM) Daniel X: PP this your kinda day...sell HOD buy LOD
(12:06 PM) Daniel X: ;-P
(12:07 PM) ppusa:
nq took out the swing high at 38.5 at LOD and i looked at it but it just didn't register
(12:07 PM) ppusa:
i thought John bought there and i know Ann said continuation buy
(12:08 PM) ppusa:
the smax buy was in the top of the channel but could easily have bot a little pb
(12:08 PM) ppusa:
i am #**&$&$((#@ for missingit
(12:08 PM) Daniel X: lol
(12:09 PM) ppusa:
short
(12:09 PM) ann_87:
good call tom b
(12:09 PM) Daniel X: relax i did not get much of it either..in from 45 to 58.50
(12:09 PM) google_2:
s56
(12:10 PM) ppusa:
dod Tom call it?
(12:10 PM) ppusa:
did
(12:10 PM) ppusa:
i missed big
(12:10 PM) ppusa:
i knew lower BB but missed
(12:11 PM) Daniel X: tough day ...stopped even though you're right
(12:11 PM) ppusa:
i only see 2 humps here?
(12:11 PM) Daniel X: not a 5 point stop day
(12:11 PM) Daniel X: let me add.....imo
(12:12 PM) dave_b_quik:
noon news on NPR reported "today's session on Wall Street has been choppy"
(12:12 PM) ppusa:
hitting ma support?
(12:12 PM) ann_87:
macd could be setting up a first cross buy at some pt
(12:12 PM) Buffy_04364:
now tell us somethingwe don't know Dave LOL
(12:12 PM) Daniel X: yes thats what i got off the floor at 10 ma
(12:13 PM) Daniel X: 10 am..lck of intrest in cisco
(12:13 PM) Daniel X: interest
(12:13 PM) google_2:
we broke rule of 4 on this leg up
(12:13 PM) Daniel X: lack of...lol
(12:13 PM) google_2:
never tested
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(12:14 PM) tkay_1:
will go for hod imo
(12:14 PM) Tom_B:
out
(12:15 PM) raz_62:
what tf rule of 4 cant find a clean one
(12:15 PM) johnl96:
agree tk
(12:15 PM) google_2:
raz from 1;30 yesterday
(12:15 PM) google_2:
till bottom today
(12:16 PM) Tom_B:
s
(12:17 PM) tkay_1:
uh oh maybe not
(12:17 PM) ppusa:
flat
(12:17 PM) ppusa:
looks good down side
(12:17 PM) Daniel X: i will now go and stuff my professional "sqwak" mouth with a nice italian pasta dish made by my favorite professional 'sqwak" mouth italian cook.....c ya ;-P
(12:17 PM) ppusa:
couldn't handle anymore
(12:18 PM) johnl96:
this is looking bearish to me, but I don't know why
(12:18 PM) google_2:
60 minutes of congestion
(12:19 PM) ppusa:
that reversed the 10 tick
(12:19 PM) ppusa:
could get another leg up...maybe not...that was the minimum retracement i was looking for
(12:19 PM) ppusa:
i have sellmode on one chart still
(12:20 PM) dave_b_quik:
tested down TL from 2/1 and failed
(12:20 PM) ppusa:
once through 50 decisin time
(12:20 PM) jimbo_320:
hi all
(12:20 PM) johnl96:
i'm short es, but I'm still not sure why
(12:20 PM) johnl96:
hi jimbo
(12:20 PM) google_2:
out 1 +7
(12:20 PM) jimbo_320:
john me too
(12:20 PM) Buffy_04364:
hi jimbo
(12:21 PM) Tom_B:
out
(12:21 PM) jimbo_320:
1st support 9720 then 9700, see if this bull move is for real
(12:21 PM) Buffy_04364:
tagged 200 on 133T
(12:21 PM) ppusa:
yesterday similar situation ran it up onemore time
(12:22 PM) jimbo_320:
hi buffy
(12:23 PM) ppusa:
i have told some of you that i was looking for nq to break away from it's support...Look at daily... if this stalls and heads lower tomorrow will get a dump
(12:24 PM) ppusa:
into next week
(12:25 PM) jimbo_320:
nq touched 1427 as overnight low on nq
(12:25 PM) jimbo_320:
+- 2 pts
(12:26 PM) raz_62:
doji on hourly
(12:27 PM) Buffy_04364:
ib 4m
(12:28 PM) google_2:
+5 flat
(12:29 PM) ann_87:
Dave could you post a chart?
(12:30 PM) ppusa:
is strad here? anyone know strad?
(12:30 PM) raz_62:
change your nick to Google_+5 and you can just hit enter
(12:30 PM) Tom_B:
l
(12:31 PM) jimbo_320:
sox looks short
(12:31 PM) ppusa:
i scrolled back ... it was strad that went long at 36
(12:31 PM) nell6:
google , you must be up at least 15pts today!!
(12:31 PM) raz_62:
he he
(12:32 PM) google_2:
does it matter?
(12:32 PM) raz_62:
she was up 15 before she opened paltalk
(12:32 PM) ppusa:
strad is going to tell us what he saw that got him long at 36
(12:33 PM) Tom_B:
flat
(12:33 PM) ppusa:
aren't you strad
(12:33 PM) p_8:
pp, there was a continuation smax there at 36 on 1 min chart, no?
(12:34 PM) Tom_B:
srt
(12:34 PM) ppusa:
i think 38.5
(12:35 PM) ppusa:
darn i knew that 50 was going to go
(12:35 PM) p_8:
he must have anticipated it as the bar moved up
(12:36 PM) google_2:
messed up that trade for su re
(12:36 PM) raz_62:
15
(12:36 PM) ppusa:
he is eating...can you believe this!!!!!!!
(12:36 PM) raz_62:
1t think
(12:36 PM) raz_62:
same as yesterday
(12:36 PM) raz_62:
still staring at me
(12:36 PM) kenac:
(12:36 PM) nell6:
google , what trade ?
(12:37 PM) google_2:
this last one exited early
(12:37 PM) Epic:
\
(12:38 PM) Tom_B:
flat
(12:38 PM) nell6:
you collected 11pts avg ?
(12:38 PM) strad -:
pp ...it was just a chart read...I don't use macd....looking for a bounce off 44.50 here
(12:38 PM) ppusa:
based on?
(12:38 PM) Tom_B:
Like watching sap run dwn a tree
(12:38 PM) Tom_B:
had 45 as my trgt
(12:38 PM) p_8:
strad, higher low?
(12:39 PM) Gene the Bandit:
does anyone post their trades here in real time?
(12:39 PM) ann_87:
48 am high
(12:39 PM) ann_87:
sorry scratch that
(12:40 PM) Tom_B:
lng
(12:40 PM) nell6:
they all do Gene
(12:41 PM) Tom_B:
grrr
(12:41 PM) Tom_B:
out
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364:
bline below 20 on lower tdf
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364:
tf
(12:41 PM) ppusa:
BB on 15 is much lower than here
(12:41 PM) Gene the Bandit:
i have been here several times and seen no posts
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364:
some call LL for looking long and LS for looking short
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364:
others just say when in
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364:
others call setups
(12:42 PM) p_8:
patient is a virtue, stay longer gene
(12:42 PM) google_2:
bandit take that bandana off and you should see better
(12:42 PM) raz_62:
well i tried to scalp a long there and it bit me
(12:42 PM) google_2:
oh forgot, it was a joke :-)
(12:42 PM) Buffy_04364:
please take that as a joke
(12:42 PM) Gene the Bandit:
i see real good
(12:42 PM) nell6:
how about the ones posted by strad, google, ppusa, and daniel X
(12:42 PM) Gene the Bandit:
wasnt here, sorry
(12:43 PM) Buffy_04364:
]np
(12:43 PM) google_2:
pp
(12:43 PM) ppusa:
yes
(12:43 PM) Buffy_04364:
np
(12:43 PM) google_2:
saw that long consolidation up there?
(12:43 PM) ppusa:
yes i did
(12:43 PM) google_2:
:-)
(12:43 PM) ppusa:
but i didn't wait for the sell signal
(12:43 PM) ppusa:
:-(
(12:43 PM) ppusa:
the first short
(12:43 PM) google_2:
yes :-(
(12:44 PM) ppusa:
should still be short
(12:44 PM) ppusa:
had the double tops there too which said higher
(12:44 PM) Tom_B:
me too...flat, grrr
(12:44 PM) ppusa:
shiiiiiiirt
(12:45 PM) ppusa:
so easy to see yet so hard to trade
(12:45 PM) Daniel X: i won't post trades..just critcal #s and floor news etc
(12:45 PM) Tom_B:
vry slow...lo vol
(12:45 PM) Buffy_04364:
setups here if I can
(12:45 PM) nell6:
in retrospect ppusa
(12:45 PM) google_2:
l43.5
(12:45 PM) johnl96:
boy, I wish I knew why I went short, I'd do it more often :)
(12:45 PM) Daniel X: PP u knew it was going here...come on
(12:46 PM) nell6:
Gene there is one for you
(12:46 PM) p_8:
continuation smax ? john
(12:46 PM) ppusa:
LOOK you guys
(12:46 PM) ppusa:
50 area congestion had to go
(12:46 PM) johnl96:
google scared me, I'm out
(12:46 PM) ppusa:
you had to know that
(12:47 PM) ppusa:
so when nq had the final push i said looking for PnF reversals right
(12:47 PM) google_2:
out 1 +3
(12:47 PM) ppusa:
i went short
(12:47 PM) ppusa:
what's the big deal
(12:48 PM) nell6:
Bandit did you see that by google ?
(12:48 PM) raz_62:
i tried that and got the longest red 55 tick bar on the chart
(12:48 PM) RaisingSun:
es is in a linear regression channel
(12:48 PM) Gene the Bandit:
yes
(12:48 PM) Daniel X: mixed indices 1rst and 2nd tier all mixed
(12:49 PM) Gene the Bandit:
but why did he get out
(12:49 PM) ppusa:
who me?
(12:49 PM) RaisingSun:
usually means more down
(12:49 PM) p_8:
it's for u to figure out, gene :)
(12:49 PM) ppusa:
google?
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: look for new lows below 37
(12:49 PM) google_2:
pp?
(12:49 PM) ppusa:
ann?
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: 42 to 37 support
(12:50 PM) Buffy_04364:
pyra indicators down and could not close above tos fwiw
(12:50 PM) nell6:
i'll get out too , take the money $90 in less than 3min and now it is turning
(12:50 PM) johnl96:
Raising, isn't it almost ALWAYS is a linear regression channel?
(12:51 PM) nell6:
and p_8 is right
(12:51 PM) ann_87:
google? pp?
(12:51 PM) google_2:
ann?
(12:51 PM) ann_87:
LOL
(12:52 PM) Gene the Bandit:
ann, are you using that tradestation i sent you
(12:52 PM) Daniel X: 47.50 then 53 if not back down
(12:53 PM) strad -:
ann? google ? pp?
(12:55 PM) johnl96:
why is everyone calling other people's names?
(12:55 PM) p_8:
sideway market will do that to u..
(12:55 PM) johnl96:
:)
(12:55 PM) Daniel X: 50% retrace here

(12:58 PM) p_8:
today's chart looks like yesterday's, down, up hod, down to 50%-62%
(01:00 PM) google_2:
until proven wrong
(01:00 PM) Rose0001:
:_)
(01:00 PM) Daniel X: ;-P
(01:00 PM) ppusa:
rose you look funny
(01:00 PM) Rose0001:
:-)
(01:00 PM) ppusa:
so does dan
(01:00 PM) TomEds:
google, what you short at
(01:01 PM) Daniel X: my tongue is hanging out
(01:01 PM) google_2:
8-)
(01:01 PM) ppusa:
:-B
(01:01 PM) ppusa:
:-H
(01:02 PM) p_8:
o|:-)>
(01:03 PM) nell6:
this thing is slow today
(01:03 PM) ppusa:
0l:-)
(01:03 PM) ppusa:
cool
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(01:04 PM) raz_62:
they must make alot of cash off the instant dates
(01:04 PM) raz_62:
they push it enough
(01:05 PM) Daniel X: a pigs orgasm lasts 30 mins Tom
(01:05 PM) Daniel X: have fun
(01:05 PM) Tom_B:
Hw do u know Dan ?
(01:05 PM) Daniel X: lol
(01:05 PM) Tom_B:
lol
(01:06 PM) ppusa:
haha
(01:06 PM) johnl96:
this looks like a guess either way
(01:06 PM) ppusa:
you longs going to hold for new highs or take it?
(01:07 PM) Tom_B:
grrrr
(01:07 PM) Rose0001:
My chimp telling me to hold for now. Confirmed by NQ tick and trin.
(01:07 PM) Daniel X: 47 to 53 and hold before i attempt to go long
(01:07 PM) ppusa:
agree
(01:08 PM) tomsurf:
good to listen to your innner chimp Rose :-)
(01:08 PM) Tom_B:
c'mon Dan need ur Buy stps & Rev's to help :)
(01:08 PM) Daniel X: he he
(01:08 PM) Tom_B:
LOL Tom
(01:08 PM) Rose0001:
Cute, Tom.
(01:08 PM) google_2:
out 1 +6 that's for raz
(01:08 PM) ppusa:
resis here
(01:09 PM) Tom_B:
out
(01:09 PM) tomsurf:
my chimp was talking but I wasn't listening
(01:09 PM) Daniel X: im out 1/2...at the bounce off support
(01:09 PM) Tom_B:
+5.5
(01:09 PM) Daniel X: 42.50 be/ at 58.50 will get ichy finger at 53
(01:10 PM) raz_62:
cool
(01:10 PM) raz_62:
you made extra what i lost
(01:10 PM) Daniel X: i only had 1 long today
(01:11 PM) Tom_B:
Wud like retr to reenter lng...thnk going North
(01:11 PM) raz_62:
why sometimes it has say 50 on bid and ask no spread and just jumps up
(01:11 PM) Tom_B:
Too soon though
(01:11 PM) johnl96:
ADD flat as a pancake
(01:12 PM) Daniel X: jumps to fill limit order i guess
(01:12 PM) ppusa:
tom i have a feeling down
(01:12 PM) Tom_B:
shrt
(01:12 PM) Tom_B:
but late
(01:13 PM) Buffy_04364:
ditto pp
(01:13 PM) Daniel X: w8 Tom i have a feeling up!!!lol
(01:13 PM) ppusa:
no big deal but don't get sucker trade...just keep doing what you do
(01:13 PM) Daniel X: kidding
(01:13 PM) johnl96:
think I'll join you in a minute
(01:13 PM) Buffy_04364:
fwiw
(01:13 PM) Tom_B:
my brain is numb, feels nothing
(01:13 PM) Daniel X: i no go long till 47 to 53 goes and holds a suport
(01:14 PM) Daniel X: still short
(01:14 PM) raz_62:
we jumped a whole point then
(01:14 PM) johnl96:
shrt 88.50
(01:14 PM) Daniel X: lol

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(01:14 PM) google_2:
flat
(01:14 PM) raz_62:
whew
(01:14 PM) tkay_1:
short hm
(01:15 PM) Tom_B:
Dummy Ind says shrt :)
(01:15 PM) Daniel X: uh oh looks like locals taking control
(01:15 PM) Daniel X: i'll see if i have any info
(01:15 PM) Tom_B:
dangerous spot
(01:16 PM) Daniel X: moving stop to48
(01:16 PM) Daniel X: fate
(01:16 PM) Daniel X: trade
(01:17 PM) nell6:
where did you go short daniel?
(01:17 PM) Daniel X: 58.50
(01:17 PM) nell6:
nice
(01:17 PM) Daniel X: cut half just at the support bounce
(01:17 PM) Tom_B:
cvrd...chicken
(01:18 PM) Tom_B:
+1
(01:18 PM) google_2:
chicken in this market is good thing
(01:18 PM) Tom_B:
:)
(01:18 PM) Tom_B:
Either the retrace that refreshens before lift-off or....
(01:19 PM) Daniel X: today is a real pro traders enviroment
(01:19 PM) Tom_B:
i shuda stayed in bed then :)
(01:19 PM) nell6:
no doubt daniel
(01:19 PM) ann_87:
what does that mean daniel?
(01:20 PM) google_2:
means not for me
(01:20 PM) google_2:
and you ann
(01:20 PM) google_2:
:-)
(01:20 PM) Daniel X: looks like alot of the margin rule closed account traders are in this
(01:20 PM) ann_87:
that's what i thought
(01:20 PM) google_2:
lol
(01:20 PM) Daniel X: if you follow what i mean
(01:21 PM) Rose0001:
Not for the chimp, either.
(01:21 PM) google_2:
chimp is real pro
(01:21 PM) ann_87:
ok can we take the chimp with us
(01:21 PM) Daniel X: they sais it would get volitle
(01:21 PM) Rose0001:
LOL
(01:22 PM) Daniel X: its looks like it wants do do the nsaty
(01:22 PM) Daniel X: nasty
(01:22 PM) Tom_B:
s
(01:23 PM) raz_62:
pp you still holding that 64 short
(01:23 PM) strad -:
chicken gonna replace the chimp?
(01:23 PM) ppusa:
of course not
(01:24 PM) raz_62:
I knew you had it when i didnt fill
(01:24 PM) ppusa:
60.5
(01:24 PM) ppusa:
entry
(01:24 PM) ann_87:
40 is 62 % retrace
(01:24 PM) tkay_1:
if chimp only knew how to stay out of ranges... he'd beat anyone
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(01:25 PM) ann_87:
buy divergence??
(01:25 PM) raz_62:
maybe google can train the monkey
(01:25 PM) Daniel X: well we're in the same chop zone as yesterday 40 to 55
(01:25 PM) Rose0001:
Chimp working hard for his banana today. He's short from 46, but not sure because 15EMA13 sort of flat, but the 13 EMAs are crossed down...
(01:25 PM) tkay_1:
haha
(01:25 PM) tkay_1:
yea google train chimp to stay out of ranges
(01:25 PM) johnl96:
out at b/e
(01:25 PM) johnl96:
i've a feeling we're going to see a pop up
(01:25 PM) ppusa:
ann buy divergence meaning non confirmed upside?
(01:26 PM) ppusa:
smax buy
(01:26 PM) ann_87:
buy divergence
(01:26 PM) ann_87:
is what i mean
(01:26 PM) Tom_B:
-3
(01:26 PM) Daniel X: vol not supporting up moves
(01:26 PM) ann_87:
later pp
(01:26 PM) Daniel X: or down moves for that matter
(01:27 PM) ppusa:
ok
(01:27 PM) Daniel X: but u know what they say about down volume ..i hope
(01:27 PM) tkay_1:
TraderWinds Resorts?
(01:27 PM) google_2:
let's just hope it's not a schneitzen
(01:28 PM) ann_87:
right google
(01:28 PM) ppusa:
if i was going long i think i would look for a better 1-2-3 to get the other longs out and shorts in
(01:28 PM) ppusa:
translated means lower please
(01:28 PM) raz_62:
murrey math says 60% off trading goes on between 3/8 and 5/8 line i have those the past 2 days at 38 and 52
(01:29 PM) ppusa:
thanks raz
(01:29 PM) ppusa:
good to know
(01:29 PM) Daniel X: in the chop zone i mentioned 40 to 55?
(01:30 PM) Rose0001:
Chimp out at b/e.
(01:30 PM) Tom_B:
getting sme lng rumblings...but cud just be stomach
(01:30 PM) Daniel X: do you mean 1438 to 1452?
(01:30 PM) ppusa:
maybe compromise....up tomorrow down next week
(01:30 PM) raz_62:
and in the past 2 days out of 80 5min bars only 24 traded totally out of that range
(01:30 PM) google_2:
l47
(01:30 PM) Tom_B:
lng 46
(01:30 PM) Daniel X: oh ok
(01:30 PM) Daniel X: thnx
(01:30 PM) ann_87:
smax long 46
(01:30 PM) johnl96:
you counted them raz?
(01:31 PM) Daniel X: i'm out
(01:31 PM) ppusa:
yes ann
(01:31 PM) raz_62:
woops that s just from 130 yesterday
(01:31 PM) raz_62:
yes i counted them
(01:32 PM) johnl96:
I'm not sure whether to be impressed or not
(01:33 PM) ppusa:
if nas stays here it is above 20 ma on 5 and 15...very positive
(01:34 PM) Daniel X: using the info to make $ is impressive..otherwise it's just knowledge...woulda coulda..shoulda...lol
(01:34 PM) ppusa:
little triangle here
(01:34 PM) Tom_B:
mkt shrt, imvho..path of least res up
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(01:35 PM) ppusa:
i am going long at either 1440 or 1340
(01:35 PM) Tom_B:
:0
(01:35 PM) google_2:
the time element indicates a market turn either yesterday or today to the upside
(01:36 PM) raz_62:
i would suggest 1415
(01:36 PM) ann_87:
hourly chart looks bullish
(01:36 PM) google_2:
so far nothing
(01:36 PM) ppusa:
okay how about one more dip to 1440 and we will all buy
(01:36 PM) ann_87:
es dbl bottom
(01:36 PM) ppusa:
okay???
(01:36 PM) ppusa:
everyone ready
(01:36 PM) Tom_B:
flat
(01:36 PM) Daniel X: his 40 to 55 area has been a nightmare for the past 4 days
(01:36 PM) ppusa:
the timing is right
(01:37 PM) Daniel X: this
(01:37 PM) raz_62:
and we dont even have the power to take out the ask on 1 tick
(01:37 PM) tkay_1:
everyone's lookin for double bottom/inverted h'n's thingie, its gonna fail
(01:38 PM) google_2:
flat -1
(01:39 PM) Tom_B:
grrrr
(01:40 PM) ann_87:
that last upswing on es was higher than last down swing
(01:40 PM) johnl96:
yeah, tk but how many are looking for schneitzens?
(01:40 PM) ann_87:
many times an lbr anti buy is formed
(01:40 PM) ann_87:
that way
(01:40 PM) ann_87:
fwiw
(01:41 PM) nell6:
lbr?
(01:41 PM) johnl96:
Linda Raschke, nell
(01:41 PM) nell6:
thanks
(01:41 PM) Daniel X: fortah to fitty five...no trades for me
(01:41 PM) johnl96:
I emailed her last night and proposed marriage...
(01:42 PM) johnl96:
haven't heard back yet
(01:42 PM) google_2:
l48.5
(01:42 PM) Tom_B:
l 48
(01:42 PM) raz_62:
hey thats about my lines
(01:42 PM) google_2:
rule of 4
(01:42 PM) Tom_B:
wish i knew that darn rule :0
(01:43 PM) nell6:
be patient john !!
(01:43 PM) Tom_B:
i thnk ann posted sme charts...i didn't get it..
(01:44 PM) nell6:
rule of 4 ???
(01:44 PM) tkay_1:
oke, my opinions are worthless today
(01:44 PM) tkay_1:
feel free to use me as contrarian indicator tommorow
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(01:45 PM) Tom_B:
out 53.5
(01:45 PM) raz_62:
s52.5
(01:45 PM) Tom_B:
+5.5
(01:45 PM) google_2:
out 1 +5
(01:46 PM) Tom_B:
any more firepower in this ?
(01:46 PM) raz_62:
sure hope not
(01:46 PM) Tom_B:
reasonable spot 4 a shrt..but not me...
(01:47 PM) raz_62:
i probably turned the whole market again
(01:48 PM) ppusa:
6 point PnF says you might get lucky
(01:48 PM) ppusa:
after 6 beware...either way
(01:48 PM) raz_62:
me not know luck
(01:48 PM) raz_62:
luck not know me
(01:48 PM) johnl96:
I knew we weren"t going to go thru the whole day without hearing PnF
(01:49 PM) Tom_B:
thought u thew them out pp..
(01:49 PM) google_2:
I trust pnf
(01:49 PM) johnl96:
you like sqwaking too google!
(01:49 PM) google_2:
no
(01:49 PM) google_2:
just googling
(01:49 PM) johnl96:
hearing sqwaking, i mean
(01:49 PM) google_2:
:-)
(01:50 PM) Tom_B:
1 more push
(01:50 PM) tkay_1:
daniel we need an update on locals' plots:)
(01:50 PM) johnl96:
yeah
(01:50 PM) strad -:
lol googling
(01:50 PM) ppusa:
raz i don't see 3 humps
(01:50 PM) sellputs:
ppusa what box and rev are you using on the nq?
(01:50 PM) Tom_B:
see 2 hre pp
(01:51 PM) Daniel X: the vlume since 12:15 has been nearly untradable
(01:51 PM) ppusa:
seems like sometimes 2 is it
(01:51 PM) Tom_B:
i do my best wrk whn nobodys looking :)
(01:51 PM) ann_87:
50 38% retrace
(01:52 PM) ppusa:
sellputs 3,6,10,12,15,16,25,22.5,30,50 2 ways, 75,125,187.5
(01:52 PM) google_2:
thanks ann
(01:52 PM) Tom_B:
tnx
(01:52 PM) Tom_B:
tough spot hre
(01:52 PM) rich012:
good eye ann, you fib watcher, you
(01:53 PM) sellputs:
ppusa I am using TS 4 and those numbers do not make sense to me
(01:53 PM) Tom_B:
l
(01:53 PM) ppusa:
reversal size
(01:53 PM) raz_62:
out even
(01:54 PM) Tom_B:
52
(01:54 PM) Daniel X: now hold 57 and i'm a buyer
(01:54 PM) Daniel X: not
(01:55 PM) Daniel X: vol picking up

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(01:55 PM) google_2:
3 humps underway
(01:56 PM) Tom_B:
out
(01:56 PM) ann_87:
i was just gonna ask
(01:56 PM) Tom_B:
+2
(01:56 PM) Tom_B:
whrs my butt kicking mach
(01:57 PM) johnl96:
pretty decent add diverg
(01:57 PM) google_2:
price against 15 min channel
(01:57 PM) johnl96:
short es
(01:57 PM) Rodent_1M:
smax working very well
(01:57 PM) johnl96:
this has only been 50/50 last 2 days tho
(01:58 PM) ppusa:
above the 20 ma on hour chart, 15 min and 5 min
(01:58 PM) raz_62:
isnt the symetry a little wrong google
(01:58 PM) Tom_B:
google u hld that last long thru small pbk ??
(01:59 PM) Tom_B:
to 50 area ?
(01:59 PM) ann_87:
sox a triangle all day. going to test the top of T now
(01:59 PM) raz_62:
woops
(01:59 PM) google_2:
symmetry of 3 hump violated
(01:59 PM) raz_62:
shoulda waited
(01:59 PM) Tom_B:
nice to be right i & out of position
(02:00 PM) google_2:
hs on 15 min
(02:00 PM) google_2:
test time
(02:00 PM) google_2:
+10 flat
(02:01 PM) Tom_B:
nice Google
(02:01 PM) ppusa:
nice g
(02:02 PM) Daniel X: gotta hold 53 to 57 area
(02:02 PM) ann_87:
dow and es failing?
(02:02 PM) raz_62:
reqally what did you trade
(02:03 PM) google_2:
ok
(02:03 PM) google_2:
on 15 min
(02:03 PM) google_2:
we have
(02:04 PM) google_2:
RS higher than LS
(02:04 PM) google_2:
H is today's lod
(02:04 PM) ppusa:
Gartley
(02:04 PM) ann_87:
yes google so what does that imply?
(02:05 PM) google_2:
long aboe 65
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(02:05 PM) pender:
old football injury?
(02:05 PM) google_2:
short below 44
(02:05 PM) google_2:
I favor long
(02:06 PM) ppusa:
careful for slam
(02:06 PM) ppusa:
didn't make a new high
(02:06 PM) google_2:
true
(02:08 PM) Tom_B:
l 52
(02:08 PM) ann_87:
so google this 3 hump is no good? as it violated symmetry?
(02:08 PM) ppusa:
BARN right shoulder
(02:08 PM) RaisingSun:
is this a gartley set up nq 13 min??
(02:09 PM) google_2:
not symmetrical as I'd like to see it
(02:09 PM) raz_62:
yeah i tried to short it and it spanked my monkey
(02:11 PM) johnl96:
out, flat
(02:11 PM) johnl96:
starting to get scary
(02:12 PM) RaisingSun:
ok
(02:12 PM) ppusa:
H&S one minute
(02:13 PM) ppusa:
right shoulder complete...which way now?
(02:13 PM) ann_87:
to the barn pp
(02:13 PM) johnl96:
I still like short, but just barely
(02:13 PM) ppusa:
BAAAHHHH
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: is it sat turady today?
(02:13 PM) Tom_B:
out
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: staturday
(02:13 PM) Tom_B:
+1
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: saturday
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: lol
(02:13 PM) google_2:
yes pp
(02:14 PM) strad -:
short 54
(02:14 PM) google_2:
h &s
(02:14 PM) ppusa:
yahoo
(02:14 PM) johnl96:
short 89.50
(02:14 PM) google_2:
s51
(02:15 PM) ppusa:
now what here?
(02:15 PM) johnl96:
I'll probbly regret this
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(02:16 PM) ppusa:
yes
(02:16 PM) google_2:
out 1 +3
(02:17 PM) ppusa:
support here
(02:19 PM) Tom_B:
l 51
(02:19 PM) raz_62:
dangerouys long
(02:20 PM) raz_62:
just fell back in the chopateria
(02:20 PM) nell6:
yes i think its dangerous
(02:20 PM) google_2:
flat
(02:20 PM) nell6:
but you've been collecting all morning
(02:21 PM) Tom_B:
best time is whn risk is min, imho
(02:21 PM) nell6:
not now?
(02:21 PM) ppusa:
hour chart looks like a washout coming
(02:21 PM) Tom_B:
out :0
(02:22 PM) nell6:
good tom
(02:22 PM) ppusa:
i never liked that double bottom at 40 area
(02:22 PM) Tom_B:
shrt
(02:22 PM) ppusa:
that is a big target
(02:22 PM) Tom_B:
shrt by accid
(02:22 PM) ann_87:
so is about to touch lower part of trianglenow
(02:22 PM) google_2:
s49
(02:23 PM) ppusa:
if this goes to 40 and then maybe a reversal straight back jump long
(02:23 PM) ppusa:
check out the length of the hour chart bar
(02:23 PM) ppusa:
looks like if they took the lows at 1441.50 there could be a turn arond
(02:23 PM) dave_b_quik:
gotta run, happy trading to all
(02:24 PM) ppusa:
if this happens i don't want you bozos saying it wasn't easy to see
(02:24 PM) ann_87:
by dave
(02:24 PM) raz_62:
looks like 3 humps forming maybe
(02:24 PM) ann_87:
dave could you do a chart of that 2/1 you spoke of...
(02:25 PM) google_2:
out 1 +3
(02:25 PM) raz_62:
L46.5
(02:25 PM) Tom_B:
lts go 45
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(02:26 PM) raz_62:
i was 3 humped
(02:27 PM) Tom_B:
out 45.5 +3.5
(02:28 PM) ppusa:
doji on daily if closes here
(02:28 PM) ppusa:
here goes
(02:28 PM) ppusa:
i may take a shot down there adding q's
(02:29 PM) Tom_B:
shrt
(02:29 PM) ppusa:
anyone disagree?
(02:29 PM) ppusa:
last chance to help me out of this mess
(02:29 PM) ann_87:
44 is goog's number to short h s pattern
(02:30 PM) raz_62:
ouch -4
(02:31 PM) raz_62:
worse trade today
(02:31 PM) ppusa:
30 is my potential downside target based on PnF
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(02:32 PM) raz_62:
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/no%203%20humps577.jpg
(02:33 PM) raz_62:
tell me what i did wrong
(02:33 PM) johnl96:
out +2
(02:33 PM) Tom_B:
cvrd shrt..-1.5 :(
(02:33 PM) raz_62:
sure looked like a likely spot for 3rd hump
(02:33 PM) nell6:
nothing raz just probabilities
(02:33 PM) google_2:
didn't break last swing low yet
(02:33 PM) Buffy_04364:
lots of new stuff raz
(02:34 PM) raz_62:
yes
(02:34 PM) raz_62:
just put the cycle tool on to measure humps
(02:34 PM) nell6:
next time you will pick up 15pts
(02:34 PM) Buffy_04364:
getting to be an ensign pro :-)
(02:34 PM) johnl96:
ADD still heading down
(02:34 PM) nell6:
john +2es ?
(02:35 PM) raz_62:
i knew short under 52
(02:35 PM) raz_62:
been talking about it all day
(02:35 PM) pender:
raz, only take those trades on Wednesday, hump day
(02:35 PM) raz_62:
hmm
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(02:35 PM) johnl96:
yes nell
(02:36 PM) nell6:
nice
(02:36 PM) johnl96:
nell, you gotta change yer handle. I feel like I'm talking to Dudley Doright's girlfriend.
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(02:36 PM) johnl96:
thanks
(02:36 PM) nell6:
lol
(02:37 PM) ppusa:
HEY GOOGLE! if this tails off an inverted Gartley
(02:37 PM) google_2:
yes
(02:37 PM) google_2:
support still at last swing low
(02:37 PM) raz_62:
where i cover my long
(02:38 PM) raz_62:
i know that spot
(02:38 PM) ppusa:
if this were really going up, they would killl it and snap it back
(02:38 PM) Tom_B:
shrt, agn...
(02:38 PM) ppusa:
question is what happens...continue down?
(02:39 PM) ppusa:
think i only buy if snaps back
(02:39 PM) ppusa:
new hour now
(02:39 PM) raz_62:
wish someone would tell us that
(02:39 PM) ppusa:
me 2
(02:39 PM) raz_62:
i went short that should be a clue
(02:40 PM) google_2:
still short looking for 33
(02:41 PM) ppusa:
didn't i tell ya it would get here?
(02:41 PM) Tom_B:
y
(02:41 PM) raz_62:
do ya promise
(02:41 PM) ppusa:
i don't know how you guys can't believe some of these moves aren't easy to see
(02:41 PM) raz_62:
woops underwater
(02:42 PM) ppusa:
to buy or not to buy
(02:42 PM) strad -:
h&s met it's objective
(02:42 PM) google_2:
ok watch for rule of 4
(02:42 PM) raz_62:
out even it can fall now
(02:43 PM) ann_87:
sorry ..just read your post
(02:44 PM) raz_62:
where we going easy
(02:44 PM) raz_62:
quick
(02:45 PM) Tom_B:
lng
(02:45 PM) ann_87:
smax buy
(02:45 PM) ppusa:
like to see a bitmore of a tail but i bought
(02:45 PM) google_2:
out +2 flat
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(02:46 PM) johnl96:
long es 88
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(02:46 PM) ppusa:
out
(02:47 PM) google_2:
bunch of scalps geez
(02:47 PM) ppusa:
looks good here so far
(02:47 PM) Tom_B:
out
(02:47 PM) ppusa:
whoops
(02:47 PM) Tom_B:
slow on the trigger +1
(02:48 PM) Tom_B:
l
(02:49 PM) ann_87:
amazing how 40 is holding
(02:49 PM) raz_62:
google was that a long off rule of 4
(02:49 PM) google_2:
yes
(02:49 PM) tomsurf:
I could be wrong but having a hard time with the market falling apart today with the trin and tick readings I've seen.
(02:50 PM) raz_62:
top at 1359
(02:50 PM) google_2:
tom
(02:50 PM) google_2:
basing isn't easy
(02:50 PM) strad -:
agree tom
(02:50 PM) ann_87:
the es has a 15 min anti..
(02:50 PM) amer_68:
40 to 48 is the 10:05 bar
(02:51 PM) amer_68:
Go 14 point below, 15 points above.
(02:51 PM) ann_87:
google based on rule of 4 should come back and test that line?
(02:51 PM) tomsurf:
googs true, it's a sloopy afair
(02:51 PM) google_2:
if line is steep retest doesn't have to touch line
(02:52 PM) raz_62:
we have 2 5 min bars since noon that didnt fall in the 52 to 38 range
(02:52 PM) ann_87:
thx
(02:52 PM) ann_87:
ss1
(02:53 PM) ppusa:
very interesting raz
(02:53 PM) johnl96:
out 90, +2
(02:53 PM) tomsurf:
ya know googs, having a pattern fail (so to speak) might be a clue that the opposite is gonna happen in a bigger way. Just something T used to point out.
(02:53 PM) johnl96:
dang!
(02:53 PM) johnl96:
too early
(02:53 PM) google_2:
absolutely tom
(02:53 PM) google_2:
we're just testing 1440 over and over again
(02:53 PM) ann_87:
that's what lbr always said
(02:54 PM) johnl96:
tomsurf, happens a lot!!!!!!!!
(02:54 PM) tomsurf:
That women has a great mind...learned lots from her.
(02:54 PM) johnl96:
those are a few of my favorite trades
(02:54 PM) ppusa:
30 point PnF says don't get excited about upside
(02:54 PM) johnl96:
shake it up and turn it over again, pp
(02:54 PM) johnl96:
:)
(02:55 PM) raz_62:
well ill short its easy too see for you
(02:55 PM) ppusa:
in the past i have gone log in this situation so many times and been wrong that maybe this time down
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(02:56 PM) raz_62:
i hope
(02:56 PM) Daniel X: i havn't been exited since since 11am
(02:56 PM) raz_62:
underwater at this point
(02:56 PM) ppusa:
dan you have missed a lot of fun
(02:56 PM) Daniel X: i bet
(02:56 PM) Tom_B:
isn't that whn u brought up the pig ?
(02:56 PM) johnl96:
what do you do when you're just sitting there daniel?
(02:56 PM) Daniel X: lol

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(02:56 PM) ppusa:
don't go there
(02:57 PM) Daniel X: read
(02:57 PM) johnl96:
wait, I don't think I want to know
(02:57 PM) MartyJ01:
Possibly a slime close, things flattening out...
(02:57 PM) Daniel X: the post
(02:57 PM) ppusa:
if this doesn't make a higher high tomorrow ohmy
(02:57 PM) google_2:
s48
(02:57 PM) Tom_B:
s 47.5
(02:57 PM) tomsurf:
good to hear Daniel cause after your pig info.....I was getting worried, LOL
(02:58 PM) Daniel X: he eh
(02:58 PM) Daniel X: he he
(02:59 PM) tomsurf:
;-)
(02:59 PM) raz_62:
if i could stop screwing up limit and stop i would do better
(02:59 PM) Daniel X: my last trade was a 50.50to a 45.50 short
(03:00 PM) Daniel X: 4 trades on theday
(03:00 PM) Daniel X: lost interest
(03:00 PM) Daniel X: migrain
(03:01 PM) google_2:
out 1 +4
(03:01 PM) Daniel X: great!
(03:01 PM) johnl96:
short es
(03:01 PM) johnl96:
88.50
(03:02 PM) jean2:
DanX - Hope you aren't trying to get sympathy because you lost interest - (but sorry about the migraine)
(03:03 PM) johnl96:
dang, it's after 3:00
(03:03 PM) Daniel X: lost interest not $ ;-)
(03:03 PM) johnl96:
man, did I ever get lucky
(03:03 PM) Tom_B:
out 40 + 7.5
(03:03 PM) Daniel X: excellent
(03:03 PM) jean2:
yes - I noticed Dan - congrats...
(03:04 PM) raz_62:
dont tell me you forgot to check bonds
(03:04 PM) Daniel X: ok i won't
(03:04 PM) Tom_B:
wat r those :)
(03:05 PM) Tom_B:
may hve more can't afford to see if it takes out 38
(03:05 PM) Daniel X: lost interest when it began to take too much effort and no follow through on the signals..hence the migrain
(03:05 PM) ppusa:
long scalp?
(03:05 PM) ppusa:
nah
(03:06 PM) Tom_B:
u first :)
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(03:06 PM) ppusa:
tomorrow trend day
(03:06 PM) Daniel X: could this be the trade we've been waiting for the whole day?
(03:06 PM) Daniel X: !
(03:06 PM) Daniel X: 200 on the 5 min

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(03:06 PM) raz_62:
which way
(03:07 PM) Daniel X: i'm selling the bounce
(03:08 PM) google_2:
flat +9
(03:08 PM) Tom_B:
applause google
(03:08 PM) ann_87:
way to go !
(03:08 PM) MartyJ01:
good one
(03:08 PM) raz_62:
yes
(03:08 PM) google_2:
pulling teeth
(03:08 PM) ppusa:
1-2-3 on 15 minute now
(03:09 PM) raz_62:
i made 9 on 10 trades but just gave it back
(03:09 PM) Tom_B:
can u spare a dime for a cup of coffee here ?
(03:09 PM) nell6:
wonderfull
(03:10 PM) johnl96:
out 85.50
(03:10 PM) johnl96:
+3
(03:10 PM) Tom_B:
May chop now
(03:10 PM) google_2:
nice john
(03:10 PM) johnl96:
thanks
(03:10 PM) ppusa:
anyone long?
(03:10 PM) Tom_B:
u frst :0
(03:10 PM) johnl96:
no
(03:11 PM) raz_62:
no but im short 2
(03:11 PM) Tom_B:
may need 2 more pushes dwn ?
(03:11 PM) raz_62:
please go down
(03:11 PM) Tom_B:
or 1
(03:11 PM) Daniel X: 44 has to keep it down RAZ
(03:11 PM) Daniel X: brb
(03:12 PM) raz_62:
well you can forget that
(03:12 PM) johnl96:
yeah, I'll go long
(03:12 PM) johnl96:
86.75
(03:13 PM) Tom_B:
if i had any hydrant i'd scalp shrt here ttmar
(03:13 PM) johnl96:
back to short
(03:14 PM) google_2:
patience pays
(03:15 PM) Tom_B:
that wuuda arkd
(03:15 PM) Tom_B:
wrkd
(03:15 PM) raz_62:
come on 15
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(03:16 PM) Tom_B:
slapping self with old fish
(03:16 PM) hanksterr:
the chimp is winning
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(03:17 PM) johnl96:
ADD gapping down
(03:17 PM) google_2:
pass me a fish
(03:17 PM) Tom_B:
LOL
(03:17 PM) raz_62:
nq going for my stop
(03:17 PM) Tom_B:
Hate whn I see'm & just don't do them...DA
(03:18 PM) google_2:
I'm done
(03:18 PM) johnl96:
ADD still heading down
(03:18 PM) google_2:
won't short here
(03:19 PM) ppusa:
l
(03:19 PM) ppusa:
o
(03:19 PM) ppusa:
ut
(03:19 PM) johnl96:
getting close to the time where the es gets a mind of it's own
(03:19 PM) raz_62:
stopped out
(03:19 PM) ppusa:
lout for a scalp
(03:19 PM) Tom_B:
cud get the little pop but 2 waves dwn... hmmm
(03:20 PM) raz_62:
+10 on 14 r/t
(03:20 PM) raz_62:
hard way to go
(03:20 PM) google_2:
raz that's wonderful!!
(03:20 PM) google_2:
congrats :-)
(03:20 PM) raz_62:
not really
(03:21 PM) raz_62:
but beats losing
(03:21 PM) scorp:
chin up!
(03:21 PM) ppusa:
good raz
(03:21 PM) google_2:
yes
(03:21 PM) tomsurf:
raz ;-)
(03:21 PM) ppusa:
it's a start?
(03:22 PM) johnl96:
add made a few ticks up, but it's so buried, it's not worth worrying about
(03:22 PM) raz_62:
now watch it
(03:22 PM) raz_62:
was short 2
(03:22 PM) Tom_B:
Gonna Chimpnap the Chimp
(03:24 PM) ppusa:
the type of sell signal nq may get on the 25 point PnF is one that usually runs...maybe tomorrow
(03:24 PM) ann_87:
that's great raz!
(03:24 PM) raz_62:
thanks
(03:25 PM) raz_62:
that was 3 humps down kinda
(03:25 PM) raz_62:
not verypretty
(03:25 PM) Tom_B:
this may be the one
(03:25 PM) google_2:
would love to go long off 33
(03:26 PM) Tom_B:
not for a long just
(03:26 PM) ann_87:
the 79% retrace#
(03:26 PM) Tom_B:
hump 3
(03:26 PM) Rose0001:
I feel like I'm in a coma, going in an out of consciousness with my connectivity problem. Comcast coming out again this afternoon.
(03:26 PM) raz_62:
i have a 17 to 15 looming large still
(03:26 PM) ann_87:
ohh rose i feel for you
(03:26 PM) Rose0001:
Thanks, Ann. Very frustrating!
(03:27 PM) raz_62:
never did fix it
(03:27 PM) johnl96:
tell 'em I said hi, rose
(03:28 PM) ann_87:
smax buy 38/5
(03:29 PM) Tom_B:
l
(03:29 PM) ppusa:
lout
(03:29 PM) ppusa:
still have q's here
(03:29 PM) ppusa:
what to do
(03:30 PM) johnl96:
made 1 and lost 1 on last 2
(03:30 PM) johnl96:
quit for the day pp
(03:30 PM) Tom_B:
out
(03:31 PM) Tom_B:
-1
(03:31 PM) ppusa:
hold or fold...looking for a door
(03:31 PM) johnl96:
I don't know about the rest of you, but by the end of the day, I'm whipped
(03:32 PM) johnl96:
bearish add diverge setting up, but too late to trade it
(03:32 PM) Rose0001:
Me, too, John. Did you say you're on Comcast or Verizon DSL?
(03:33 PM) johnl96:
comcast, had verizon
(03:33 PM) johnl96:
I've had no problems with cable rose
(03:33 PM) tippet:
sox lod
(03:34 PM) johnl96:
took 'em a while to get it going, but good since
(03:34 PM) ann_87:
jimmer would give me butt kicking machine on smax call
(03:34 PM) johnl96:
guess it wasnt too late
(03:34 PM) Quan2:
Can anyone tell me where I can find the details of the rule of 4 discussed here today?
(03:35 PM) raz_62:
its at dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart but is only the 4th touch of a trend line if i am correct
(03:36 PM) ppusa:
somehow the trend on the 5 minute chart has turned decidedly negative
(03:36 PM) Quan2:
Thx Raz - Any particulular TF or trend line setting?
(03:41 PM) ppusa:
hey
(03:41 PM) ppusa:
i wonder????
(03:41 PM) raz_62:
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-01-15/google%20rule%20of%204%20line1.jpg
(03:41 PM) raz_62:
another
(03:41 PM) Daniel X: bounced anf filled off support
(03:41 PM) google_2:
chased crumby scalps and left the good trades
(03:42 PM) Quan2:
Raz - very helpful. Thx.
(03:42 PM) ppusa:
that sure looks like a completed Gartley
(03:42 PM) raz_62:
like to dine on those scraps
(03:42 PM) raz_62:
chips in a diamond factory
(03:43 PM) johnl96:
what tf pp?
(03:44 PM) google_2:
where's the Howard today?
(03:44 PM) ppusa:
1,5,15
(03:44 PM) Tom_B:
pp, darn mem probs...
(03:45 PM) ppusa:
yours or the computers
(03:45 PM) ppusa:
i wonder if others have same problems
(03:45 PM) ppusa:
mine didn't start until i added 256
(03:45 PM) raz_62:
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/range%20raz578.jpg anyone interested can see here how the bars either stayed in or part of them were in the 52 to 38 range (the yellow lines)
(03:46 PM) Tom_B:
me too
(03:46 PM) johnl96:
the 5 looks like one to me pp, other 2 look pretty week
(03:47 PM) johnl96:
weak
(03:47 PM) johnl96:
raz, is that murrey stuff on the enthios site?
(03:47 PM) Tom_B:
I was posting & then realized no one else was... i was out of mem...lucky my trade software wrkd so i cud cvr my shrt scalp
(03:48 PM) Daniel X: yawn..... well that ws enuff for me..think i'll call it a day
(03:48 PM) Daniel X: c ya
(03:48 PM) johnl96:
c ya daniel
(03:48 PM) Tom_B:
Bye Dan, don't forget to feed the pig
(03:49 PM) google_2:
bye dan
(03:49 PM) raz_62:
murrey is on enthios site this is gann square from ensign
(03:49 PM) nell6:
c ya dan
(03:49 PM) johnl96:
k, thx
(03:49 PM) tomsurf:
take care daniel
(03:49 PM) Tom_B:
pp u done 4 day ?
(03:50 PM) ppusa:
yea
(03:50 PM) Tom_B:
I'll pm u
(03:50 PM) ppusa:
ok
(03:50 PM) johnl96:
why can't all these happen before 3:30
(03:51 PM) raz_62:
15 coming up
(03:52 PM) raz_62:
whats wrong with 330
(03:53 PM) johnl96:
I use the ADD a lot and it often becomes unreliable late in the day
(03:53 PM) johnl96:
for some reason I haven't figured out yet
(03:53 PM) Rose0001:
FWIW the middler LSS sell number was 1466.5 and the buy numbers were 1410.7, 1410 and 1408.
(03:53 PM) raz_62:
i have 3 charts wanting 13 15 17
(03:53 PM) raz_62:
wish i had listened to them this am
(03:54 PM) raz_62:
i had a seel limit at 66 but it stopped at 64
(03:55 PM) hanksterr:
still in chimp trade from 46
(03:55 PM) raz_62:
bummer
(03:55 PM) tippet:
SOX hammered
(03:55 PM) Rose0001:
Good for you, handksterr.
(03:55 PM) johnl96:
you da chimp hanksterr
(03:55 PM) raz_62:
really
(03:55 PM) raz_62:
wish i could hold one
(03:56 PM) raz_62:
every time i do i lose
(03:56 PM) Tom_B:
Hank good job..i wrk 4 crumbs you get the whole loaf :)
(03:56 PM) hanksterr:
left on errands and let the chimp run things rose
(03:56 PM) tomsurf:
hank- lol
(03:56 PM) hanksterr:
I usually screw it up
(03:56 PM) Rose0001:
That's hilarious.
(03:56 PM) Buffy_04364:
pyra has a ranchor with this low
(03:57 PM) Tom_B:
see we had another sell @ 38... grrr
(03:57 PM) hanksterr:
wonder if the chimp is married
(03:57 PM) tomsurf:
Thx for the heads up Buffy
(03:57 PM) Tom_B:
take a number
(03:57 PM) johnl96:
raz, don't worry about it...the goal should be to make money, not to be the smartest chimp on the block
(03:58 PM) strad -:
support at 17
(03:58 PM) raz_62:
jeeze wish i had not stopped out of those 2 at 39
(03:59 PM) raz_62:
i chart satisfied
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364:
1415.65 bos
(03:59 PM) raz_62:
now 15 and 13
(03:59 PM) raz_62:
2 charts satisfied
(03:59 PM) johnl96:
wow, this is amazing
(04:00 PM) google_2:
.65
(04:00 PM) google_2:
thats accurate
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364:
yep pyra doesn't care about ticks
(04:00 PM) tippet:
have 11 as 50% retrace on ndx
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364:
adjust anyway you wish :-)
(04:00 PM) google_2:
have no need for pyra :-)
(04:00 PM) raz_62:
hmm i dont see a 13
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364:
then why ask
(04:01 PM) google_2:
didn't ask
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364:
:-)
(04:01 PM) google_2:
just stated it must be accurate
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364:
true comment wouldof been better
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364:
thatis what it says
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364:
it was accurate
(04:02 PM) raz_62:
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/ganndaily579.jpg
(04:02 PM) tippet:
TQNT after the bell
(04:02 PM) raz_62:
daily chart
(04:02 PM) johnl96:
sounds like someone here needs a timeout
(04:02 PM) Buffy_04364:
nice raz
(04:03 PM) strad -:
LOL john
(04:03 PM) Buffy_04364:
for all who know plevin and that his daughter has been sick - she is now in the hospital
(04:03 PM) raz_62:
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/gann5min581.jpg
(04:03 PM) raz_62:
gann5min
(04:04 PM) raz_62:
what really looks bad is the 1312 on the daily
(04:04 PM) raz_62:
maybe we will not get it
(04:04 PM) Buffy_04364:
last bar closed above bos
(04:04 PM) johnl96:
what the heck is that raz?
(04:04 PM) raz_62:
gann square
(04:04 PM) Buffy_04364:
going to reanchor here
(04:05 PM) johnl96:
from where to where?
(04:07 PM) hanksterr:
that is too bad buffy I hope it is not serious
(04:07 PM) raz_62:
this is somewhat uncanny yesterday at 1405 i put this on the chart
(04:07 PM) Buffy_04364:
ditto hanksterr - they don't know anything yet which must make it hard
(04:07 PM) johnl96:
where did you anchor it raz?
(04:08 PM) raz_62:
it has never ran that long before with out having to reanchor it and it went right where it said it was
(04:08 PM) Buffy_04364:
using the sameanchor as for pyra raz?
(04:09 PM) raz_62:
i started at the peak at 1340 and placed the 37% line on the first red bar at 1405
(04:09 PM) Tom_B:
Bye all
(04:09 PM) Buffy_04364:
oh ok
(04:09 PM) Buffy_04364:
tks
(04:09 PM) raz_62:
the rest of the chart was hanging out in space
(04:09 PM) Buffy_04364:
bye tom
(04:09 PM) raz_62:
and it fulfilled beautifully
(04:10 PM) raz_62:
http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/yesterdays%20gann%20sq576.jpg
(04:10 PM) raz_62:
heres one from yesterday
(04:10 PM) raz_62:
i started that at the red bar that touches the 37% line
(04:10 PM) raz_62:
it went down to 100%
(04:11 PM) raz_62:
and bounced
(04:11 PM) Buffy_04364:
does seem to work well raz
(04:11 PM) raz_62:
building more and more faith in it
(04:12 PM) raz_62:
would love to take the murrey math course
(04:12 PM) raz_62:
people swear by it
(04:12 PM) johnl96:
looks pretty cool raz...
(04:12 PM) johnl96:
make any money with it?
(04:13 PM) raz_62:
amazing
(04:13 PM) ann_87:
h and s on daily got target.. and 50% from sept low is what i have
(04:13 PM) raz_62:
not much stops screwing me up
(04:14 PM) raz_62:
supposed to run stops a full section above entry but i am gun shy
(04:14 PM) johnl96:
whoa!!!!
(04:14 PM) tomsurf:
john- one things for certain and that is there is no shortage of opinions with traders ;-)
(04:14 PM) raz_62:
not but 4 to 11 points
(04:14 PM) johnl96:
I'm glad you told me THAT part
(04:14 PM) nell6:
11pts stops!!!!??
(04:15 PM) johnl96:
true tomsurf
(04:15 PM) hanksterr:
looks like the gorilla vs chimp trade lol
(04:15 PM) raz_62:
i had those 2 short and put my stop at 38 right over the line and it got me before it dumped
(04:15 PM) raz_62:
38.5 actua;lly
(04:15 PM) jimbo_320:
bears surely still in control
(04:16 PM) raz_62:
2 points higher i would be smiling large right now
(04:16 PM) Daniel X: wow ..just like God told Moses...tap twice
(04:16 PM) tomsurf:
you'd be laughing for sure raz
(04:16 PM) Daniel X: no trades between 40 to 55
(04:17 PM) raz_62:
stops have been my downfall
(04:17 PM) raz_62:
either they take me out or i dont have one and get creamed
(04:17 PM) Daniel X: only follow through was after it broke...gotta ne patient
(04:17 PM) Daniel X: be
(04:17 PM) hanksterr:
same here raz
(04:18 PM) jimbo_320:
all on a 0.68 trin today, somebody got wiped out, surely not right, everyone else have a 0.68 nysetrin?
(04:19 PM) strad -:
yes jimbo
(04:19 PM) tomsurf:
jimbo, yes very interesting
(04:19 PM) jimbo_320:
at close strad?
(04:19 PM) raz_62:
oh no
(04:19 PM) strad -:
all the volume went into the advancing stocks
(04:20 PM) strad -:
yes jimbo
(04:20 PM) strad -:
on nyse
(04:20 PM) johnl96:
.69 is what I have but close enuf
(04:20 PM) p_8:
nyse up vol is bigger than down volume, jimbo
(04:20 PM) jimbo_320:
weird huh so what where they buying ?
(04:21 PM) jimbo_320:
not semis for sure
(04:21 PM) p_8:
sector rotation?
(04:21 PM) johnl96:
the trin does weird stuff alot, that's why I don't use it
(04:22 PM) pete77_1:
I"ve got to listen to Daniel, make some in the morning and give it all back plus more in the afternoon
(04:22 PM) jimbo_320:
does anyone know if it is the cummalive volume of the day, or is it just the volume in the last 5 min bar, that would explain that a lot of buyers came at the open and inflated it for the whole day
(04:23 PM) jimbo_320:
or deflated it rather
(04:23 PM) johnl96:
the trin uses advancing volume and declining volume
(04:23 PM) johnl96:
cumulative
(04:24 PM) pete77_1:
My first experience with a UPS today, went long and debating about my stop when the power went out. UPS saved the day
(04:24 PM) Buffy_04364:
naz trin much higher 1.76
(04:24 PM) p_8:
yep buffy, they moved the money out of tech to blue chip
(04:24 PM) Buffy_04364:
sure did
(04:25 PM) jimbo_320:
ok john i thought it must be, guess those guys will have to puke at the open tommorrow
(04:25 PM) johnl96:
I don't know why trin should be so flaky
(04:25 PM) strad -:
jimbo nyse trin was low all day
(04:25 PM) p_8:
john, it's not flaky, blue chip is doing not too bad today..
(04:25 PM) johnl96:
I've fiddled around with some numbers and I can't get it to make much sense
(04:25 PM) strad -:
nas trin was up and down
(04:26 PM) p_8:
trin is based on blue chip stocks
(04:26 PM) Buffy_04364:
can't reanchor yet
(04:26 PM) jimbo_320:
p8 semis got hammered today
(04:26 PM) Buffy_04364:
it is all still below %D which is below 20
(04:26 PM) wilsco:
tickQ was neg most of the day
(04:27 PM) p_8:
y, like tippet said, it closed at LOD
(04:27 PM) strad -:
jimbo semi's not on nyse...they're on nas
(04:27 PM) Buffy_04364:
the last twolows were not confirmed by tick either
(04:27 PM) Buffy_04364:
hmm
(04:27 PM) jimbo_320:
strad sure just noting rotation
(04:28 PM) tippet:
looking for 1740 naz
(04:28 PM) johnl96:
I'm not sure that's true about the blue chips p8, but I could be wrong
(04:29 PM) wilsco:
downtrend line on nas has not been broke
(04:29 PM) p_8:
john dow is down only 0.3%, nasdaq is down 1.7%
(04:30 PM) p_8:
that's why trin is relatively much lower than trinq
(04:30 PM) strad -:
if you consider all nyse stocks blue chips then it's true...or better yet all high volume nyse stocks
(04:30 PM) johnl96:
I'm not sure how that relates p8
(04:31 PM) Buffy_04364:
after hours might be interesting
(04:31 PM) Buffy_04364:
back later
(04:32 PM) johnl96:
I guess my argument is that if the NYSE trin is under 1.00 all day, the NYA really shouldn't be down at all.
(04:32 PM) johnl96:
unless it starts at like 0.01 and finishes at .69
(04:33 PM) strad -:
not equally weighted
(04:33 PM) p_8:
john, trin=(advaning issue/declining issue)/(advancing volume/declining volume)
(04:33 PM) johnl96:
what isn't?
(04:33 PM) jimbo_320:
it would be better if it was not cummulative but imagine too hard to calculate
(04:33 PM) johnl96:
true
(04:34 PM) johnl96:
yes, I understand that p8
(04:34 PM) p_8:
so you see on the equation that it is very possible
(04:34 PM) p_8:
to finish the way it is
(04:35 PM) johnl96:
so is fish falling out of the sky but it doesn't happen too often
(04:35 PM) p_8:
lol
(04:35 PM) p_8:
y, just have to accept it
(04:37 PM) johnl96:
oh well, the search for the grail goes on
(04:38 PM) p_8:
as always, john..never ending journey..
(04:39 PM) johnl96:
the thing that cracks me up about the trin is that there are days when you can slap like a 9,3,3 sto on it and it'll call every swing hi and low in the day
(04:40 PM) johnl96:
but...
(04:40 PM) johnl96:
there are those OTHER days
(04:40 PM) tkay_1:
hm buffy around?
(04:41 PM) johnl96:
left for a few tk
(04:41 PM) johnl96:
said she'd be back
(04:43 PM) tkay_1:
thx