(09:43 AM) Buffy_04364: morning all (09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: tomorrow we trade xx H2 (09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: and ensign class tonight is on alerts (09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: and how to set them up (09:45 AM) dave_b_quik: thanks, buffy (09:45 AM) google_2: thanks and gm buffy (09:45 AM) triton_18: what time? (09:45 AM) triton_18: please? (09:48 AM) Buffy_04364: 15min after the futures close (09:49 AM) Buffy_04364: in the ensign window users room (09:49 AM) triton_18: tks again (09:49 AM) Buffy_04364: u welc (09:59 AM) moses_13: need to reschedule for Tuesdays as daaughter has dancing classes then.?? (09:59 AM) Buffy_04364: went through tos and is holding (10:00 AM) QSuzy: Data frozen here.....anybody else?? (10:00 AM) Buffy_04364: working well here (10:00 AM) tomsurf: ok, here Suzy (10:00 AM) moses_13: okay here (10:00 AM) Buffy_04364: reschedule what moses (10:00 AM) QSuzy: seems ok now....tx (10:00 AM) El_Cazador: do you expect a pullback before it goes higher... if it goes higher? (10:01 AM) moses_13: ensign classes. haha (10:01 AM) Buffy_04364: might bounce on bos for a while or pull back (10:01 AM) Buffy_04364: those are posted to the website as quick as howard can get them up moses (10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: all the classes are (10:02 AM) moses_13: But I'll mess your personal imput in real time (10:02 AM) moses_13: miss (10:02 AM) tomsurf: Buffy- where is BOS? (10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: I am usually quiet during a class unless Howard involves me :-) (10:03 AM) moses_13: if dow can't get over 9900 time to short (10:04 AM) SP Steve: This is right where it started selling off aggressively yesterday (10:04 AM) SP Steve: 1680 is also 61.8% retracement (10:05 AM) tomsurf: good morning Steve :-) (10:05 AM) SP Steve: hey (10:06 AM) SP Steve: Selling the Nasdaq at 167500 (10:06 AM) SP Steve: stop (10:06 AM) Buffy_04364: hi Steve (10:09 AM) subtvshow: hi steve, in you in nice move up? (10:10 AM) SP Steve: nope (10:10 AM) SP Steve: Missed it, and Therewas a buy at 65 stop (10:10 AM) SP Steve: Hi Buffy (10:10 AM) subtvshow: i figured you would be in for like 40 points already (10:10 AM) SP Steve: I am a knuclehead (10:11 AM) SP Steve: It was an easy trade too..... (10:11 AM) SP Steve: Selling now at 1681.00 stop (10:11 AM) SP Steve: Market sell (10:11 AM) El_Cazador: why was it easy, Steve? (10:11 AM) SP Steve: 86 stop Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (10:12 AM) SP Steve: It opened higher, tested Unchanged and held, and started the rally... Classic (10:12 AM) El_Cazador: thanks (10:12 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, that was a 2B test of the opening range too on 3m and 5m NQ (10:13 AM) SP Steve: Stops now down to 1682 (10:13 AM) SP Steve: short at 80.50 (10:14 AM) subtvshow: ok (10:15 AM) SP Steve: Adding at 1675 stop (10:16 AM) SP Steve: This is not a very good signal, but worth the risk (10:16 AM) SP Steve: I hope.. Paltalk: Go bannerless and support PalTalk! Subscribe today! Only $14.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (10:17 AM) SP Steve: That was quick (10:17 AM) SP Steve: But painless (10:17 AM) El_Cazador: Steve wouldn't you expect 1675 to become support? (10:18 AM) ppusa: a break of the low looks like (point and figure) it should have a lot of follow through. (10:18 AM) ppusa: was short but covered looking for re-entry (10:19 AM) SP Steve: probably, yes (10:19 AM) ppusa: short stop at 82 (10:19 AM) subtvshow: steve is your 1675 stop in still? (10:19 AM) SP Steve: This is the sell (10:19 AM) SP Steve: I am out of synche a little today (10:20 AM) ppusa: yea chart was a little what i call narrow, now better (10:20 AM) subtvshow: so now where is your cover stop? (10:21 AM) SP Steve: I didn't do the trade (10:21 AM) subtvshow: ok (10:21 AM) SP Steve: But should have stops now at 83 if you are short (10:21 AM) subtvshow: ok Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (10:23 AM) ppusa: covered (10:24 AM) ppusa: don't know why but i did (10:24 AM) ppusa: nice retro there (10:25 AM) ppusa: holding support for now (10:29 AM) ppusa: 6 tick reversal. break of 70 should stasrt another leg down Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (10:32 AM) ppusa: 42 or 97??? (10:33 AM) ppusa: trin over 1, tick negative, SP new lows (10:35 AM) subtvshow: if short from 75 steve, where woudld you lower stops to noiw? (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: tks pp (10:36 AM) SP Steve: back (10:36 AM) SP Steve: stops now ? (10:36 AM) SP Steve: at 71 or so (10:36 AM) subtvshow: ok (10:36 AM) SP Steve: and would have added at 69 stop (10:38 AM) Buffy_04364: 1.62 for trin? (10:38 AM) ppusa: 1.33 high i show (10:38 AM) El_Cazador: 1.43 (10:39 AM) goh_3: 1.62 NYSE Trin (10:39 AM) El_Cazador: now? (10:39 AM) Buffy_04364: 1.58 (10:39 AM) Buffy_04364: must be nyse (10:39 AM) dave_b_quik: that downswing stopped right on Tuesday's gap opening (10:40 AM) ppusa: nice leg break of 70 (10:41 AM) dave_b_quik: thanks for announcing that one in advance, pp(10:42 AM) SP Steve: BUYING at 1667 stop (10:42 AM) ppusa: yea nice to know which ones should run. (10:45 AM) SP Steve: This sell was a 30-35 point move... should have done it..... Cancelling the buy at 67 stop and I do believe IO am done for today (10:45 AM) ppusa: HOD probably in, headed for new pullback low 1620 area LOD? (10:45 AM) SP Steve: 1628 should hold as a low (10:45 AM) ppusa: why done? (10:46 AM) ppusa: wait for good sell entry and load up Steve style (10:46 AM) SP Steve: Because I missed 2 clear trades that should have made a lot (10:46 AM) SP Steve: and when I do that I usually lose money the rest of the day (10:46 AM) SP Steve: trying to press (10:47 AM) Buffy_04364: wise steve Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (10:47 AM) SP Steve: should be short at 74, 69, and 61 now (10:47 AM) ppusa: funny that happens to me sometimes too (10:47 AM) dave_b_quik: good to know yrself anyway (10:47 AM) SP Steve: yep...learned that one the hard way (10:47 AM) Buffy_04364: yes it will save your money more times than not (10:48 AM) SP Steve: maybe later in the day (10:48 AM) SP Steve: See ya (10:48 AM) Buffy_04364: bye steve (10:48 AM) El_Cazador: wait... didn't you take that swing (10:48 AM) dave_b_quik: thanks, steve (10:48 AM) El_Cazador: bye (10:48 AM) tomsurf: Steve- I understand that very well, take care (10:48 AM) Buffy_04364: tks for sharing your rule (10:48 AM) ann_87: have a nice day off Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (10:55 AM) FrankT: Time for a 6 tick reversal pp ? (10:56 AM) ppusa: y (10:57 AM) ppusa: 2 nice breaks, each one worth 10+ points (10:58 AM) FrankT: SP cash daily looking vulnerable (10:58 AM) ppusa: waiting for a bounce to go short. I do not believe the LOD is in. (10:59 AM) FrankT: How much bounce would be attractive pp? (11:00 AM) ppusa: although...the dow 4 days down and nq double bottom at 42. maybe could turn around??? (11:00 AM) Buffy_04364: tks frank (11:00 AM) Buffy_04364: pyra still says down (11:00 AM) ppusa: i don't know frank which is why i am a "deer here" (11:01 AM) FrankT: new leg starting? (11:01 AM) ppusa: next break with follow through 42 area Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (11:02 AM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2001-12-12/Buffy-4M_Pyra2.gif (11:02 AM) ppusa: that was 6 tick 48.5=49 to 55 so now i guess another leg down (11:03 AM) ppusa: that 6 tick sure is working well (11:03 AM) ppusa: it was the 6 tick that got me to cover at 70 before the final rally (11:04 AM) ppusa: i am overall still bearish and think nq will see 1600 (11:05 AM) dave_b_quik: c u there (11:05 AM) El_Cazador: is the 6 tick part of retro or b-line? (11:05 AM) ppusa: basic point and figure with 6 tick reversals (11:05 AM) dave_b_quik: pp, my 45m uptrend line is around 1600 (11:06 AM) ppusa: yes Dave, i see that on my 60 minute intraday session (11:06 AM) El_Cazador: which i will soon read up on... thanks (11:06 AM) Buffy_04364: Bline has a divergence on 2M and 300T (11:07 AM) ppusa: however, i am hoping nq will break that 1600 when it gets there (11:08 AM) Buffy_04364: but the bline is also below 20 on them (11:10 AM) ppusa: if nq approaches that uptrendline at the angle it is currently at it looks like it will go straight through. (usually a flat aproach will hold) (11:10 AM) ppusa: we will see Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (11:12 AM) ppusa: brb (11:15 AM) SP Steve: Had to leave and have some breakfast... Feel lots better now (11:15 AM) tomsurf: gotta have fuel (11:17 AM) SP Steve: yep Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $14.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (11:26 AM) leont_2: .. (11:27 AM) SP Steve: ... (11:27 AM) jimbo_320: hey dave, retro is still king, up 26 points here :-) (11:28 AM) dave_b_quik: good going, jimbo (11:28 AM) SP Steve: Up nothing so far today here (11:28 AM) El_Cazador: ya missed the lay ups? (11:28 AM) SP Steve: I sure did (11:28 AM) jimbo_320: i had a es sell at 42 but didnt take it too (11:28 AM) SP Steve: I was short at 80, and lost money... (11:29 AM) SP Steve: How in the world did I do that? (11:29 AM) El_Cazador: are your stops hard? (11:29 AM) SP Steve: I tightened it too quick (11:29 AM) SP Steve: Rookie mistake (11:29 AM) El_Cazador: lol (11:30 AM) jimbo_320: added another contract at 49.5 and covered both for 46.5 (not retro exit) (11:30 AM) SP Steve: I usually never move it until I add to the position (11:30 AM) jimbo_320: lost -4.5 on the first entry which was a fakeout (11:30 AM) SP Steve: Sell right now (11:30 AM) SP Steve: stop at 55 (11:32 AM) SP Steve: Adding at 1641 stop (11:32 AM) jimbo_320: also took the big clunk yesterday, from 90, down to 70.5 Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (11:33 AM) jimbo_320: working for me now, using b'bs to guage risk reward potential works well for retro (11:34 AM) tomsurf: jimbo- how's auto retro coming? (11:37 AM) jimbo_320: Still working on indexes tom, i may link into qfeed at quote.com for the datafeed, anybody use it ? (11:37 AM) tomsurf: not here, and doubt I would. (11:37 AM) jimbo_320: Entering retro after trend exhaustion works well (11:40 AM) Buffy_04364: I sure wouldn't use it again (11:40 AM) jimbo_320: getting mixed feedback about it, some swear by, others hate it (11:41 AM) tomsurf: well, many here use Ensign so qfeed is out of the question (11:41 AM) triton_18: hello, Howard? (11:42 AM) Buffy_04364: no triton he would be in his room (11:42 AM) Buffy_04364: not here Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (11:43 AM) jimbo_320: y, true, i might just use IB, how are the standaside rules going, or is everyone just using own judgement (11:44 AM) SP Steve: adding now at 47 stop (11:45 AM) SP Steve: stops on everything now at 51 (11:46 AM) ppusa: back...hi jimbo (11:47 AM) ppusa: i scrolled back and read your remark about using bb's to gauge retro entries. good point (11:47 AM) jimbo_320: hi pp (11:47 AM) dave_b_quik: jimbo, waiting for a smart programmer to come up with a better stand-aside rule Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. (11:47 AM) jimbo_320: pp the wider the better (11:47 AM) SP Steve: Adding again at 41 stop (11:48 AM) ppusa: also Dave the first retro short would have been stopped. seen lots of losses with a too tight stop when the other end of the bar isn't in before the continuastion (11:49 AM) SP Steve: Short 3 units now (11:49 AM) SP Steve: Looking for a low at 1628 (11:49 AM) jimbo_320: i a TL bottom here steve (11:49 AM) jimbo_320: i have a (11:50 AM) SP Steve: a what? (11:50 AM) jimbo_320: trendline (11:50 AM) SP Steve: Stops are down to 46 now (11:50 AM) SP Steve: oh (11:50 AM) SP Steve: lol (11:50 AM) dave_b_quik: nice going, steve (11:50 AM) SP Steve: Duh (11:50 AM) SP Steve: Should have known that one (11:50 AM) SP Steve: tks (11:51 AM) ppusa: hopefully due for at least a couple more down 15 minute bars before any thought of a bounce. (11:51 AM) SP Steve: I can see this holding here (11:51 AM) SP Steve: very possible (11:51 AM) dave_b_quik: testing a week-old gap and the bottom of a descending 45m wedge now (11:52 AM) SP Steve: But adding at 37 stop anyway (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: tks dave Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (11:52 AM) ppusa: hey Dave, i just had an idea (11:52 AM) dave_b_quik: tell me (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: bline below 20 so taking sell signals (11:52 AM) jimbo_320: i still have downside on es to 1122 (11:53 AM) SP Steve: Just added at 37 (11:54 AM) SP Steve: Lower stops on everything down to 41 now... Will lock in a nice profit (11:54 AM) SP Steve: OR cover at 1628 or s (11:55 AM) SP Steve: stops down to 38 now (11:56 AM) ppusa: the length of the bar prior to the first retro sell was 14 points in length, next bar 12 points. So a 5 point bounce percentage wise was not much. Maybe on longer bars retro should loosen it's stop (11:57 AM) SP Steve: Stopped out at 38 (11:57 AM) SP Steve: oh well (11:58 AM) SP Steve: sold one at 49, one at 47, one at 41, one at 37, and out of all at 38 (11:58 AM) jimbo_320: wtg (11:59 AM) SP Steve: t (11:59 AM) Buffy_04364: nice steve (11:59 AM) jimbo_320: cant belive comp is down just 8 points, whats up? (12:00 PM) FrankT: I've got -20.7 (12:00 PM) jimbo_320: what number 1993? (12:00 PM) ppusa: yea finally got into it's gap area (12:00 PM) FrankT: 1981.20 (12:01 PM) jimbo_320: 1638.5 nq Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: Israeli TV reports 4 people killed in West Bank bus attack (12:05 PM) SP Steve: This could be a low here (12:05 PM) SP Steve: a good one (12:06 PM) SP Steve: BUYING nasdaw at 1644 stop (12:06 PM) SP Steve: nasdaq Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (12:16 PM) rich012: I just downloaded latest EW. Can't get my workspaces to come up. Anyone else have this problem? (12:16 PM) dave_b_quik: i haven't upgraded yet (12:17 PM) ppusa: i had the problem Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (12:17 PM) john_83402: upgraded this morning - all working okay (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: rich howard is in the room (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: his room (12:18 PM) ppusa: never really solved it just rebuilt off of some of the old ones that i could get up (12:18 PM) rich012: CI can't get the last workspace that I was using to show up. All others do. (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: he can't fix it for others if he doesn't know about it (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: interesting (12:18 PM) rich012: Wasn't sure if it was just me or not. (12:18 PM) ppusa: same rich (12:19 PM) rich012: dang (12:19 PM) Buffy_04364: tks for letting us know about it (12:19 PM) john_83402: did you save the workspace before you upgraded? (12:19 PM) Buffy_04364: I forgot to upgrade last night (12:19 PM) ppusa: had to drag up an old one and mess with it (12:19 PM) rich012: It was an ongoing workspace that I use all the time. (12:19 PM) ppusa: yes i saved (12:19 PM) rich012: bblb (12:19 PM) Buffy_04364: he should be able to get it up (12:19 PM) SP Steve: Lowering buy stop to go long down to 1639 (12:20 PM) ppusa: yea i resave now and then (12:20 PM) Buffy_04364: he sure did mine one time way back when lost them all (12:20 PM) ppusa: buffy you have more clout (12:20 PM) Buffy_04364: he listens to all pp (12:21 PM) ppusa: i am peon compared to you (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: all the improvements in dec 11 I had nothing to do with (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: rich could you let us know the solution if not too involved (12:22 PM) ppusa: he did say the latest version should fix the problem and although it really didn't, haven't had trouble since (12:22 PM) ppusa: for me it was because of big macro (12:22 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok pp tks Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (12:23 PM) ppusa: anyway back to trading. looking long here (12:23 PM) ppusa: maybe little lower (12:23 PM) SP Steve: me too (12:23 PM) ppusa: don't think LOD is in and would rather be a seller but missed the last bounce (12:24 PM) SP Steve: BUYING NASDAQ at 1636 stop (12:24 PM) jimbo_320: hope nobody is trading merlin today, right shape chart, WRONG direction (12:24 PM) ppusa: got to be good to get me in long (12:24 PM) SP Steve: Going Long (12:24 PM) ppusa: the compx imo definately needs lower (12:25 PM) SP Steve: Long now... Yikes! (12:25 PM) jimbo_320: 25 is es key support (12:25 PM) SP Steve: stops at 32 for now (12:25 PM) ppusa: S&P is breaking beneath breakout equivalent to 1550 nq (12:25 PM) SP Steve: Might have to try this a couple times (12:26 PM) jimbo_320: Merlin - There is one significant drawback to this approach. It is unable to identify whether a turn date is a high or a low. A common term for the cause of the phenomenon is an 'inversion'. (12:27 PM) jimbo_320: Still I suppose there is still 4 hours trading left (12:27 PM) tomsurf: jimbo- where did you get Merlin's stuff from? (12:28 PM) ppusa: high last hour 53. if nq gets to 48 area, could be major sell for afternoon slam (12:31 PM) SP Steve: This looks like a bottom to me (12:31 PM) Buffy_04364: hit tos and time line is next bar (12:32 PM) 9r: tomsurf he probably gets it from merlins page (12:32 PM) SP Steve: above 1644 would be about an 86% chance this is the low of the day (12:32 PM) SP Steve: 85% Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (12:33 PM) SP Steve: Adding to longs at 1644 stop (12:33 PM) tomsurf: 9r- thx (12:34 PM) 9r: np (12:35 PM) jimbo_320: posted interesting ES chart to dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart /jimbo/es_break.gif (12:35 PM) jimbo_320: an eye opener ? (12:35 PM) Buffy_04364: not there yet (12:36 PM) jimbo_320: in jimbo directory (12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: tks (12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: didn't expect you to do it there (12:37 PM) jimbo_320: is it a support bounce or a trendline break ? Guess we find out if 1125 goes later today (12:38 PM) Buffy_04364: yep we will (12:38 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra stoch haven't confirmed cot (12:38 PM) Buffy_04364: but rsi and asi think so (12:39 PM) jimbo_320: Interestingly 3 legs up since 27th too (12:39 PM) SP Steve: Just added to long position (12:39 PM) jimbo_320: maybe todays action position traders loading up on shorts (12:40 PM) SP Steve: I hope they already did jimbo (12:40 PM) tomsurf: Steve- nice going...I am not with it today (12:40 PM) tomsurf: I know I'm not with the program today (12:41 PM) SP Steve: I wasn't this morning either (12:41 PM) jimbo_320: 3 legs with a bull trap to 70 hmmm (12:41 PM) perltrader: me either, back to b/e (12:42 PM) SP Steve: This identifying a bottom is a lot tougher to trade than going with the flow (12:42 PM) jimbo_320: 33% retrace is 1067 (12:42 PM) perltrader: yes, but i found it hard going with flow this am and had stops way to tight (12:42 PM) SP Steve: me too (12:42 PM) SP Steve: Hey, I was short at 1680 and lost 2 points! (12:42 PM) SP Steve: THAT was a drag (12:43 PM) tomsurf: ya, I should be shot and put out of my misery today, lol Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (12:43 PM) perltrader: so then put stops to b/e on day - i was short at 49 and stopped out 51 (12:43 PM) perltrader: stupid (12:43 PM) tomsurf: Steve- yep that was the spot and I got faked out too for no good reason. (12:44 PM) SP Steve: yep (12:44 PM) SP Steve: Had the 61.8% at 1681 too (12:45 PM) FrankT: SP cash respecting low from Nov 29 so far (12:45 PM) SP Steve: I get the dumb dumb award for that one (12:45 PM) PUBCHART: Hi all (12:46 PM) SP Steve: How stupid is this Bin Laden guy to be on tape (12:46 PM) SP Steve: I just can't believe it (12:46 PM) tomsurf: hey PUB (12:46 PM) PUBCHART: I have a question about confirmations, perhaps someone can help? (12:46 PM) jimbo_320: dave how did you get that little expand chart button on your wesbite? Looks cool (12:47 PM) PUBCHART: Does anyone use nasticks as confirmation? (12:47 PM) dave_b_quik: i think that's part of IE6, jimbo Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $14.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (12:47 PM) SP Steve: Adding again at 1645 stop (12:48 PM) SP Steve: 3'rd add (12:48 PM) subtvshow: you in this steve? (12:49 PM) SP Steve: yes (12:49 PM) SP Steve: Long at 36 and 44 so far (12:49 PM) subtvshow: nice (12:50 PM) SP Steve: No great shakes yet (12:50 PM) subtvshow: yeah its chooppy down here nim just weatching (12:50 PM) SP Steve: 1645 would be nice to get through (12:50 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra stoch cot yet (12:50 PM) subtvshow: is your stop at 31? (12:51 PM) jimbo_320: t dave (12:51 PM) SP Steve: If this gets through 1645 now it would be the cleanest add formation I have seen in months Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (12:53 PM) jimbo_320: retro would be short 38 (12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: tks jimbo (12:53 PM) perltrader: tempted to buy ES here (12:55 PM) ppusa: why is everyone buying? (12:55 PM) SP Steve: lol (12:55 PM) ppusa: what am i missing? (12:55 PM) SP Steve: Good question (12:55 PM) Buffy_04364: 3pt stoch divergence on 75T not me (12:55 PM) SP Steve: I bought because of cycle divergence (12:55 PM) jimbo_320: anyone know when the markets are closed over xmas and news year (12:56 PM) subtvshow: what kind of cycle softewaare do you use steve? (12:56 PM) ppusa: i was looking for 15 point bounce off low to reverse a PnF but then i got really tired and had to nap. well nq got it's bounce. now??? (12:56 PM) jimbo_320: 25th, 26th, 1st? (12:57 PM) SP Steve: I use a program called CycleTrader (12:57 PM) ppusa: actually it got a 12 point bounce which seems standard these days. (12:57 PM) ppusa: 15 hasn't reversed (12:57 PM) subtvshow: is it a service you pay for or a stand alone program? (12:58 PM) SP Steve: costs like $1000 or so (12:58 PM) ppusa: but anyway not enthusiastic about long (12:58 PM) SP Steve: I can get it cheaper if anyone wants it (12:58 PM) subtvshow: so its not a service? (12:58 PM) Walt299-WA: rutt roww.....cycle trader.....lol............just kidden steve......;) (12:58 PM) SP Steve: lol (12:59 PM) SP Steve: It depends on how you interpret it (12:59 PM) perltrader: i w3as looking for long cuz of 2b on 3 min with low risk entry - but knock on door and i missed it (12:59 PM) perltrader: es (01:00 PM) SP Steve: Above 1645 is a SCREAMING buy (01:00 PM) subtvshow: i dont understsnf what you mean. Its is a program like when you buy ms office or something, or is it a service like a charting service? or are we paying you to give us an interptration? (01:00 PM) dave_b_quik: don't everybody run out and buy cycletrader, methinks steve's results are more steve the software (01:01 PM) jimbo_320: retro would be out on inside bar (01:01 PM) SP Steve: If 20 people had CycleTrader, you can have 20 different opinions (01:01 PM) subtvshow: i see (01:01 PM) jimbo_320: if a dji is considered an ib (01:01 PM) jimbo_320: doji (01:01 PM) SP Steve: Tks Dave (01:02 PM) jimbo_320: Steve 1645 is also retro long, you sure you not trading retro ;-) (01:03 PM) SP Steve: Is it really? (01:03 PM) SP Steve: cool (01:03 PM) SP Steve: No, I am not Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: An Instant Dating session has just started. If interested, come join one of the lobbies in the Instant Dating catg now. (01:03 PM) SP Steve: I trade the SPSTEVE seat of the pants methodology (01:03 PM) jimbo_320: 1645 is also yesterdays low (01:03 PM) SP Steve: yep (01:03 PM) SP Steve: and that is huge (01:04 PM) perltrader: hey we can date and trade at the same time - (01:04 PM) ppusa: i said earlier 1648 area resistance hour chart (01:04 PM) perltrader: accorind to pal talk that is! (01:04 PM) SP Steve: you savage (01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: Christmas Day Sun Dec 23 Regular open Mon Dec 24 Close at 12:00 Noon (Agricultural Futures, Currencies, Interest Rates, GSCI); Close at 12:02 (Agricultural Options) Close at 12:15 (Equities) Close at 12:00 Noon (Currencies, Interest Rates & Agriculturals); Close at 12:15 pm (Equities) Tues Dec 25 Closed Closed (01:05 PM) ppusa: trying to figure out whether nq should continue from there and i can't tell (01:05 PM) jimbo_320: thanks buffy (01:05 PM) ppusa: i just don't feel the lows are in yet (01:05 PM) jimbo_320: and on 1st Jan? (01:05 PM) SP Steve: stops definitely in at 36 (01:06 PM) ppusa: 44.5 is current hour high (01:06 PM) jimbo_320: one more leg down potential later after sideway chop (01:07 PM) Buffy_04364: Mon Dec 31 Close at 12:00 Noon (Agricultural Futures, Currencies, Interest Rates, GSCI); Close at 12:02 (Agricultural Options) Close at 12:00 Noon (Currencies, Interest Rates & Agriculturals); Regular close (Equities) Tue Jan 1 Closed Closed (01:07 PM) Walt299-WA: yup.....watching for move down down to 22-27 area then looking up .... (01:07 PM) ppusa: chart looks to narrow and to steep (to me) to turn up (01:08 PM) ppusa: so i guess from lower everyone would like it... from here, i am iffy (01:08 PM) ppusa: good to know 'cos a retro trade from lower (if nq gets there) should be something everyone should take (01:09 PM) jimbo_320: PPI tommorrow (01:09 PM) SP Steve: Just added again (01:09 PM) SP Steve: Yikes (01:10 PM) SP Steve: Raise stops up to 39 (01:11 PM) ppusa: where is 48? (01:13 PM) Buffy_04364: Pentagon says B-1 bomber goes down in Indian Ocean; no information on crew Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (01:13 PM) rambler_12: i hear no casualties (01:13 PM) Buffy_04364: good tks ramble (01:14 PM) SP Steve: Not exactly exploding here (01:14 PM) SP Steve: not too bad tho (01:14 PM) rambler_12: but i hear rescue mission underway also (01:14 PM) SP Steve: all stops up to 44 now (01:14 PM) ppusa: do or die time here (01:15 PM) SP Steve: and if scalping, this 1650-52 area will probably stop it for a while (01:15 PM) SP Steve: Very tempted to take the $$ up here (01:15 PM) ppusa: how about stop and reverse? (01:15 PM) SP Steve: considering that (01:16 PM) rich012: Howard had no solution for the problem I mentioned (01:16 PM) ppusa: i am not surewhat next but this is area i picked for the rally high (01:16 PM) rich012: ppusa, what was the version u were using prior to upgrading to this version (01:17 PM) ppusa: august then november then december, had problems sionce upgrade from aug Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (01:18 PM) tomsurf: 1656ish w/be the 15min ema (01:18 PM) rich012: ok howard said if someone was upgrading from a version older than a few months they might have problems (01:19 PM) ppusa: how about take profit on some and let some ride? (01:19 PM) ppusa: anyway i don't know, and i missed the long so i am going to shut up (01:19 PM) SP Steve: lol (01:20 PM) ppusa: (until it comes back down and you will have to hear the who's your daddy) (01:20 PM) SP Steve: should have (01:20 PM) ppusa: i am warming up now (01:20 PM) SP Steve: still made a little (01:21 PM) ppusa: little more thani made (01:22 PM) Buffy_04364: tks rich (01:22 PM) SP Steve: The reason I always add like that is I think it actually REDUCES risk and lets you have more contracts to profit when you are right (01:22 PM) ppusa: that was 6 tick drop (01:22 PM) Buffy_04364: here is the link for market holidays (01:22 PM) Buffy_04364: Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (01:23 PM) Walt299-WA: buffy do they have a report calendar as well ??? (01:23 PM) ppusa: i like the add strategy. like minimal risk to make a lot everytime (01:24 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, steve, i like the concept of keeping risk small until the trade proves itself (01:24 PM) tomsurf: Walt- what sort of report calendar you looking for? (01:24 PM) SP Steve: yep (01:24 PM) SP Steve: and by the time you add a second unit, nmake sure the stop is close enough that you don't lose money (01:25 PM) Buffy_04364: don't know what you mean walt (01:25 PM) coyote_4: hi (01:25 PM) Buffy_04364: hi (01:25 PM) dave_b_quik: coyote, is that you, JR Stegmuller? (01:26 PM) coyote_4: i have sent out the link for the new account forms to RCG if you did not recive them or are not in my email list send me you e-mail address to stegs@infinitybrokerage.com (01:26 PM) rich012: I got the solution for my problem....I changed the name of the workspace file and for some reason that worked (01:27 PM) Buffy_04364: tks rich (01:27 PM) coyote_4: just to let you know everthing will be the same 10rt and 1000 margin (01:27 PM) Buffy_04364: so you did save as (01:27 PM) Buffy_04364: and that worked (01:27 PM) Walt299-WA: unempolyment......housing....ect.........stuff I prefer to be sidelined during....used to pick them up at Moore research..... (01:27 PM) ppusa: rich i will try that. would be great if it works (01:27 PM) perltrader: walt, thestreet.com has that for free (01:28 PM) rich012: buffy, it never came up so I had to change the name in Windows Explorer to something else and it came up under the new name I gave it...odd (01:28 PM) Walt299-WA: thanks perl... (01:28 PM) tomsurf: http://biz.yahoo.com/c/e.html (01:28 PM) ppusa: u mean that's not dot gone? (01:28 PM) perltrader: look on left most column of their homepage (01:28 PM) Buffy_04364: ok tks rich (01:28 PM) tomsurf: Walt that is Yahoos econ. calender which isn't bad (01:28 PM) rich012: good thing it worked too...I was not a happy camper (01:30 PM) SP Steve: BUYING nasdaq at 1651 stop (01:30 PM) Walt299-WA: thnks tom (01:31 PM) ppusa: probably buy or sell here with a 2 point stop (01:31 PM) subtvshow: and sell stop at 1640 for a short if it gets there steve? (01:31 PM) Buffy_04364: yahoo one is good also tks tom (01:31 PM) SP Steve: yes sub (01:32 PM) SP Steve: as a matter of fact (01:32 PM) ppusa: u r to bullish today (01:32 PM) ppusa: what has happened to the bear i used to know? (01:33 PM) SP Steve: lol (01:33 PM) SP Steve: me? Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (01:33 PM) SP Steve: I love selling (01:33 PM) tomsurf: he's atrader pp (01:34 PM) ppusa: yea thought maybe the Packers got him too (01:34 PM) ppusa: sure got his team (01:34 PM) tomsurf: ;-) lol (01:35 PM) ppusa: 15 minute chart much to my dismay looks pretty good (01:35 PM) JLK003: Am new to this board, Steve are u form IL.? (01:35 PM) SP Steve: yes (01:35 PM) SP Steve: Chicago (01:36 PM) SP Steve: You? (01:36 PM) JLK003: Rockford area (01:39 PM) SP Steve: Rockford is good (01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra now shows cot (01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry to be so lte telling you (01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: been doing email (01:42 PM) SP Steve: JL... How did you know I was from Illinois? (01:42 PM) JLK003: Took profits at 51.50 on nas , long from 45 (01:42 PM) FrankT: What is cot Buffy? (01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: change of trend (01:42 PM) FrankT: thx (01:43 PM) Buffy_04364: price trapped between 50 and 200 on many TF Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (01:46 PM) SP Steve: I wish i could add, but I don't see where yet (01:47 PM) ppusa: taking out 53 changes my scenario so i guess there will be no who's your daddy even if it turns down again Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (01:47 PM) tomsurf: we're sitting on the 15min ema....decision time (01:49 PM) SP Steve: Today is a struggle for some reason (01:50 PM) SP Steve: adding at 58 stop (01:50 PM) ppusa: if u look at the S&P chart i think u can see why (01:50 PM) SP Steve: I need so change my name.... (01:50 PM) SP Steve: to (01:50 PM) ppusa: nq is strongest index by far (01:51 PM) ppusa: NQ Steve (01:51 PM) ppusa: why r u SP Steve? (01:51 PM) SP Steve: sounded cool (01:51 PM) SP Steve: 54 stops now (01:51 PM) rambler_12: sp is special (01:51 PM) SP Steve: added at 58 again (01:52 PM) ppusa: i thought maybe u were S&P guy (01:52 PM) SP Steve: I used to be (01:53 PM) ppusa: today's low is resting on where i show the 200 ma to be. 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It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (01:54 PM) ppusa: stop at 59 (01:54 PM) ppusa: covering asap think 61 may be target (01:56 PM) ppusa: out (01:56 PM) SP Steve: me 2 (01:57 PM) ppusa: very iffy today (01:57 PM) ppusa: i still am overall bearish (01:57 PM) perltrader: out of es (01:57 PM) ppusa: that could have been the big sell of the day (01:57 PM) ppusa: darn (01:58 PM) perltrader: considering the ticks that wasn't much - a real damp squib (01:58 PM) ppusa: it was a nice run (01:58 PM) ppusa: u know sometimes they want to put in a low and go up. that run looks like put in the high and go down (01:58 PM) perltrader: yes - it was probably gully buying (01:58 PM) ppusa: so far giant flag (01:59 PM) ppusa: that is so pathetic (01:59 PM) ppusa: perl, did you hang in his room (01:59 PM) perltrader: no, i was just listening last week here - or the week b4 (02:00 PM) ppusa: so you weren't there when the room turned on me? too bad. wonder how he's doing? (02:01 PM) perltrader: no, pp, sorry if i put my foot in it - no offense meant (02:01 PM) ppusa: not at all (02:01 PM) ppusa: he gave us a lot of laughs (02:01 PM) perltrader: he sure talks a lot (02:01 PM) gre18: ppusa: I was there very funny (02:02 PM) perltrader: why did they turn on you? (02:02 PM) ppusa: but he did get me looking at time frames and i found the pp123 (02:02 PM) ppusa: didn't want to short an all (except after the open) down day (02:02 PM) perltrader: i think timeframes are important - there's usually a rush before 2 and around 2:30 (02:03 PM) perltrader: gully didn't? (02:03 PM) ppusa: gre do you remember when he started scrambling out of that long right before he flipped? Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (02:07 PM) rambler_12: perfect h&s on es 1 min (02:12 PM) ppusa: is this on of those Gartley's? 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(02:17 PM) Buffy_04364: bos is right there steve so maybe (02:17 PM) SP Steve: I just started off on the wrong foot for some reason today... Lucky to be up money at all (02:17 PM) perltrader: i think so too - and ibm calls are calling again Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $14.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! (02:18 PM) ppusa: check some daily's...they don't look good (02:18 PM) ppusa: i may be totally wrong but i still think gonna fall apart (02:19 PM) falcoebreo: good afternoon at all (02:20 PM) falcoebreo: ciao dave (02:20 PM) falcoebreo: ciao buffy (02:20 PM) Buffy_04364: the entire crew was rescued on that bomber (02:20 PM) dave_b_quik: ciao falco (02:20 PM) Buffy_04364: hi (02:21 PM) falcoebreo: ciao ann87 (02:21 PM) SP Steve: That;s great (02:21 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is (02:22 PM) Buffy_04364: BOS held (02:23 PM) tomsurf: very good news :-) (crew) Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! 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(02:28 PM) SP Steve: If this 40 dosen't hold, trouble for the nas (02:28 PM) ppusa: a move over 47 would be bullish (02:28 PM) Buffy_04364: agree (02:29 PM) ppusa: 50 as low of next hour would be positive. think very unlikely (02:29 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra leans toward the 40 not holding (02:31 PM) ppusa: well not like i am going to switch from bear to bull here. maybe if the packers came in and started whippin' on me. Then i would definately have to roll over (02:34 PM) SP Steve: Well.... I think it is a bottom, but I'm not dumb... selling at 38 stop Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (02:34 PM) Buffy_04364: might be (02:34 PM) ppusa: brb (02:35 PM) Buffy_04364: I have divergence on bline that says there is hoope (02:38 PM) Walt299-WA: looking for a bounce at 46....... (02:40 PM) ppusa: there is a gully room open today (02:42 PM) ppusa: short here (02:42 PM) SP Steve: me 2 (02:42 PM) SP Steve: small risk selling here (02:42 PM) SP Steve: like 4 points (02:43 PM) SP Steve: Not bad at all (02:43 PM) ppusa: yea they might run us out (02:44 PM) ppusa: out Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (02:45 PM) Buffy_04364: well it didn't go down like it should of does that mean going up or just sideways some more (02:45 PM) ppusa: hard to tell...as soon as it held that last drop i kknew there was trouble (02:46 PM) SP Steve: as soon as i got my stop back i knew the trouble was over (02:46 PM) ppusa: like your sell this am, may have been just a little early (02:46 PM) ppusa: needed the spike up (02:47 PM) tomsurf: Steve- lol, I like your mental attitude w/stops (02:47 PM) dave_b_quik: what, me worry? (02:47 PM) SP Steve: lol (02:47 PM) SP Steve: How I am even on the day I have no idea Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! (02:51 PM) Buffy_04364: this just might go through bos down (02:51 PM) Buffy_04364: bounce off falling bline (02:52 PM) ppusa: short with an add.... (02:53 PM) ppusa: yahoo (02:53 PM) dave_b_quik: hey, pp, good for you (02:53 PM) ppusa: Steve rubbing off on me (02:53 PM) ppusa: out now (02:53 PM) SP Steve: adding? that's the spirit (02:54 PM) ppusa: don't start in with that chicken stuff!!! Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (02:54 PM) Buffy_04364: big rsi divergence on that last low on pyra (02:55 PM) ppusa: hit the BB and stochastics kinda oversold (02:55 PM) ppusa: still think lower (02:55 PM) ppusa: but if gonna hold, good place to do it (02:56 PM) ppusa: until the S&P goes through 1125 i think nothing but down Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (03:07 PM) ppusa: i see a lot of space on the charts above the current congestion which usually means rally time (03:07 PM) 9r: naz tick not buying this (03:07 PM) ppusa: Dow and SP more than nas (03:08 PM) ppusa: top of this hour's range which is another + sign (03:09 PM) ppusa: now if next hour low 50ish that would be positive too (03:10 PM) PUBCHART: 9r do you use nasticks to confirm? (03:10 PM) 9r: not confirm, just watch w/ some bias (03:12 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra says cot but awfully flat (03:14 PM) Buffy_04364: buying in ticki (03:14 PM) ppusa: looking ahead i am wondering if the markets are going to be in extended consolidation period (03:14 PM) ppusa: would explain this back and forth (03:14 PM) tomsurf: big trin drop (03:14 PM) Walt299-WA: not suckering me in .....they can have this 20 point range... Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (03:14 PM) Walt299-WA: time to change the cd... (03:17 PM) Walt299-WA: thats fitting ......jimi.....cross town traffic.....;) (03:17 PM) tomsurf: Walt- perfect (03:17 PM) 9r: tom was it louder than a big pin drop? (03:17 PM) SP Steve: Where you goin' with that gun in your hand... Paltalk: Subscribe to bannerless to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (03:19 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (03:20 PM) steve-susko: anybody shorting? (03:21 PM) rambler_12: nope (03:21 PM) bor45: dutch people here (03:21 PM) ppusa: no short here past my cut off time (03:22 PM) x21r: yes bor48 (03:23 PM) ppusa: dow sp down 4 days in a row but on the other hand, daily seen this a lot where tries to go up all the while sneaking lower, then finally collapses i guess, when it breaks the TL. (03:24 PM) baja_4: bor45..yes (03:24 PM) ppusa: love to go short here Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (03:25 PM) SP Steve: 1664 is some resistance (03:25 PM) ppusa: but only if i knew this was the high (03:25 PM) SP Steve: might have to trade the range (03:25 PM) SP Steve: 1664 is 61.8% of the break (03:25 PM) Buffy_04364: that is right about where the diagonals cross in pyra (03:25 PM) dave_b_quik: at the top of the gap again (03:25 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dave (03:26 PM) ppusa: this cold be the 1-2-3 fake to new lows but i am done for now (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: also just tagged the 200 ema on the 5M (03:27 PM) ppusa: lots of reasons to take a chance butbetter to wait for signal (03:28 PM) ppusa: looks like big bear flag like the big white one Chicago raised last weekend with the Packers! (03:28 PM) 9r: short 34.25 es (03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: now how much are we going to give back (03:30 PM) Roger Schelling: humm 200 EMA 5, thx i missed that (03:30 PM) Roger Schelling: that will stall it at least (03:32 PM) Buffy_04364: usually does (03:32 PM) SP Steve: That's enough for me today.... later folks (03:32 PM) dave_b_quik: thanks, steve (03:32 PM) Walt299-WA: Cya Steve (03:33 PM) SP Steve: yep (03:34 PM) ppusa: still looks like big bear flag Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (03:35 PM) ppusa: tempted to go short here (03:35 PM) perltrader: ibm calls have doubled from this mornings low - (03:39 PM) 9r: hi mike (03:39 PM) dave_b_quik: does the rollover have an influence on prices? (03:39 PM) jsmac: what are they going to do, take it up to HOD?? (03:39 PM) Buffy_04364: is Mike talking and I can't hear? (03:39 PM) dave_b_quik: hi mike, long time no see (03:39 PM) Buffy_04364: drat (03:39 PM) 9r: yes buffy (03:39 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, my speaker was low, now i can hear (03:39 PM) tomsurf: hey mike :-) (03:39 PM) Buffy_04364: Hi Mike BRB (03:40 PM) 9r: stopped out (03:40 PM) Buffy_04364: bk (03:40 PM) tomsurf: Great to hear your voice again! (03:40 PM) dave_b_quik: do you trade in a group now mike? (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: great to hear you again!!!!! (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: that is nice (03:41 PM) Roger Schelling: Hi Mike (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: still 310T (03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what you were using last time you stopped in (03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: did you get your chairs? (03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok (03:43 PM) tomsurf: yes 610 was it (03:43 PM) Buffy_04364: you were on your way to the sale last time we spoke (03:43 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra just hit TOS (03:45 PM) dave_b_quik: for anyone who doesn't know, mike_okc is Mike Bruns, reknowned multi-timeframe MACD trader and leader of trading workshops Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: not a heck of a lot (03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: and a great teacher (03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (03:45 PM) ppusa: short stop at 70 (03:45 PM) tomsurf: mike- was great and helped many. (03:45 PM) dave_b_quik: that must be a nice break from the pressures of teaching and trading at the same time (03:46 PM) ppusa: stop at 69 b/e (03:46 PM) dave_b_quik: glad to hear it's going good, i was gonna drop you a note (03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: I bet it is (03:46 PM) tomsurf: mike- are you mostly intraday though? (03:47 PM) Buffy_04364: well Happy Holidays if we don't see you again (03:47 PM) ppusa: stop 67.5 now (03:47 PM) tomsurf: just back to your TF's....so good to hear. (03:47 PM) dave_b_quik: what's gonna happen to the 30yr bonds now that they're being discontinued? Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (03:48 PM) dave_b_quik: so the volume will probably gradually switch to 10yr, that's what i fugured (03:48 PM) tkay_1: hm MIT and STOP both become market orders, but if the price is going down mit can only buy and stop can only sell right? (03:48 PM) tkay_1: so mit=countertrend stop=trend (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: hi back to him too (03:49 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL say hi for me too (03:49 PM) tomsurf: Cool, miss you guys alot! (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: another one haven't heard from in a while (03:49 PM) breeze_76: Mike, what room are you normally in? (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: and cj (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: trendline king (03:49 PM) dave_b_quik: is gravestonedoggie with you guys? (03:51 PM) tkay_1: can u do mit on e-mini with PFG buffy? (03:51 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (03:52 PM) tkay_1: does it feel you at the specified price most of the time, or gives slippage? (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: Don't forget Howards class tonight on alerts (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: I don't use it tkay (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: don't know (03:52 PM) tkay_1: ok what about stops (03:52 PM) tkay_1: same question about stops (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: usually what in for (03:53 PM) Buffy_04364: occasionally .5 but it works both ways (03:53 PM) tkay_1: i see (03:53 PM) Buffy_04364: 5m going to bounce of 200ema? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: take care Mike (03:55 PM) tomsurf: Thx for stopping by Mike :-) (03:58 PM) token_4: EW question, trying to import data and i receive an error message I/O error 32, does anyone know what that is, or how to correct it? (03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: token I don't but howard is in the room (03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: his room (03:59 PM) token_4: thanks (03:59 PM) ppusa: Dave's kid tossed him off the computer (03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (04:00 PM) dave_b_quik: hey, you guys talkin about me? (04:00 PM) ppusa: wasn't that you that mic'd the room? (04:01 PM) ppusa: closed...tomorrow will be interesting especially with the contract change (04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: sure will (04:03 PM) tkay_1: hm contract change? (04:03 PM) tomsurf: pp- lol, interesting or all jerky and whippy. (04:03 PM) tkay_1: delivery will be soon or sumthn (04:03 PM) tkay_1: so it'll change to jan? (04:04 PM) tomsurf: H- march (04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: xx H2 (04:04 PM) dave_b_quik: anybody know how to splice data inensign? (04:04 PM) ppusa: whippy today (04:04 PM) ppusa: merge Dave? (04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: have to use the data merge feature (04:04 PM) dave_b_quik: ya (04:04 PM) tomsurf: rollover is a whippy time for sure (04:04 PM) ppusa: file/file manager/merge (04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: I don't like it (04:05 PM) tkay_1: so if you do delivery of nq say (04:05 PM) tkay_1: what would you deliver (04:05 PM) tkay_1: stock? (04:05 PM) tomsurf: merge or rollover? Paltalk: ========================================== Find the Best Sites on the Web Click Here ========================================== (04:05 PM) tomsurf: tkay- there is no taking of delivery (04:05 PM) ppusa: tkay i am going to venture to say there is no delivery associated with nq (04:06 PM) rambler_12: too easy to not deliver (04:06 PM) dave_b_quik: anybody know if esignal has an intraday continuous contract for ES/NQ? (04:07 PM) ppusa: i will say this... if nq keeps taking out the previous day's lows, eventually there will be a big spike down as it really breaks (04:07 PM) ppusa: Dave i can't speak for nesignal but the trades have been thin in march contract so the info won't be great (04:08 PM) ann_87: buffy said they do i think (04:08 PM) ann_87: i can't remember the symbol, nor do i know if it is only for daily (04:08 PM) ppusa: i am going to merge my charts with December (04:10 PM) ppusa: bye all (04:11 PM) tkay_1: so nq is cash settled? (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: ok guys howard says it works in any time frame (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: and in fact for intra-day can merge lower time multiple to build higher time multiple, (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: ie, can build 60 minuute bar from a 5-min fil (04:14 PM) Buffy_04364: source is 5-min fil (04:14 PM) Buffy_04364: target is the 60-min file (04:14 PM) ann_87: buffy wht is the symbol? (04:14 PM) Buffy_04364: does that help (04:15 PM) Buffy_04364: it would be NQ Z1.5 as source Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (04:15 PM) Buffy_04364: Nq Z1.60 as target (04:15 PM) ann_87: sorry no clue what target it (04:15 PM) ann_87: is (04:15 PM) Buffy_04364: maybe we can get him to go over it in class today (04:15 PM) Buffy_04364: at the end (04:15 PM) ann_87: or how or what i am supposet to do (04:16 PM) Buffy_04364: click on file (04:16 PM) ann_87: i unfortunately have a 5 o'clock appt (04:16 PM) Buffy_04364: click on file manager (04:16 PM) Buffy_04364: click on merge chart files (04:16 PM) Buffy_04364: there must be something on his website for sure (04:17 PM) Buffy_04364: I will be around tonight but not tomorrow night or saturday (04:17 PM) dave_b_quik: thanks buffy, i was hoping esignal might have a symbol for a continuous contract without having to merge it myself (04:17 PM) ann_87: ok (04:17 PM) Buffy_04364: Christmas bridge party Saturday (04:17 PM) Buffy_04364: they do NQ#F (04:17 PM) ann_87: buffy what what hte other symbol you mentioned hte other day (04:17 PM) ann_87: does nq#f have intraday? 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(04:18 PM) Buffy_04364: don't know (04:18 PM) Buffy_04364: looking now (04:19 PM) Buffy_04364: yep seems to (04:19 PM) ann_87: hmm i guess tomorrow will see how well it matches price with the h contract (04:20 PM) ann_87: ok thanks buffy (04:20 PM) ann_87: will try it later (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: it says 1675 for nq hmmm wonder why (04:22 PM) tomsurf: 1675 is the H contract price (04:22 PM) tomsurf: at the close (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: ok well like I said maybe we can get howard to run through it after class (04:23 PM) tomsurf: great (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: so going to take a break here and then see you all over at the ensign windows users room (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: I guess I am typing (04:23 PM) tomsurf: ok (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: so may have ?'s as some things get past me when typing Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: night all and see you tomorrow if you don't go to the class will be back in here afterwards though (04:26 PM) ann_87: ok buffy bye... (04:26 PM) ann_87: i won't be there for class but will hopefully get a chance to pop in later (04:29 PM) ab50: this is the ensign room right? (04:32 PM) dave_b_quik: no, the ensign room is called "ensign windows users group" (04:33 PM) dave_b_quik: in the business section (04:33 PM) dave_b_quik: they're just getting started