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Click Here ========================================== (09:09 AM) x21r: good morning (09:09 AM) ann_87: good morning (09:11 AM) Buffy_04364: morning all (09:19 AM) Orprepus: morning all Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (09:19 AM) ppusa: gm orp (09:19 AM) Orprepus: hey ppusa - what does your 200pt chart say today (09:20 AM) Orprepus: totmty (09:20 AM) Orprepus: that is "top of the morning to ya" (09:21 AM) Buffy_04364: hi orp and pp Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (09:21 AM) ppusa: it's actually a 187.5 and due for higher high thanhere (09:21 AM) Orprepus: hey buffy (09:21 AM) Orprepus: ok thanks (09:22 AM) ppusa: you know nq inside week untilyesterday and inside mionth now (09:22 AM) Orprepus: be intresting to see how market reacts to jobless claim report today (09:22 AM) Orprepus: and unemplyment numbers tomorrow (09:23 AM) ppusa: last month's high ndx 1500...what do you think, seen bottom or (09:24 AM) Orprepus: right now they are rally on any good piece of news - napm & CSCO yesterday (09:24 AM) Orprepus: dell says it will hit earnings (09:24 AM) ppusa: i was hoping nq hit 1240 for pb, missed and hit 1242 sohaven't bot (09:24 AM) Orprepus: but what happens if jobless claims come in negative as well as unemployment (09:25 AM) Orprepus: would be nice to see rally continue in short term - but still think we have a bigger move down coming in the future (09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: it would really have to be bad orp as figures distorted from 9/11 (09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: IMO (09:26 AM) Orprepus: stimulus package is less than tax rebate per person (09:26 AM) ppusa: nq done 5 months (including this one) lower lows, lower highs...don't want anyone to not be aware of this..other than that a 150-200 point bounce off a low is no big deal (09:27 AM) ppusa: nq down (09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: yeah I noticed that - don't know what is expected by the market (09:27 AM) Orprepus: right - market does not move in straight line - need some recovery I think to setup bigger down (09:28 AM) ppusa: yesterday's low nq 39 points from low, due for this rally (09:28 AM) ppusa: i would be PO's if i had a stop at 36 and they hit it (09:28 AM) ppusa: PO'd (09:29 AM) Orprepus: up overnight - but falling slightly before open and jobless report - expecting large number - we will see Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! 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Click Here ========================================== (09:30 AM) ppusa: 30 point PnF obot still (09:30 AM) dave_b_quik: g'mornin all (09:30 AM) Orprepus: hey dave (09:31 AM) Buffy_04364: morning Dave (09:31 AM) Buffy_04364: going to be gone more than here today (09:31 AM) Buffy_04364: but will have room open (09:31 AM) Orprepus: read an article last night about ex clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich is advocating a federal moratorium on corporate layoffs (09:32 AM) david h_2: that guys out of control (09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: http://www.delta.com/travel/sp_offers/nyc_100201/index.jsp (09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: link sent to me as free flights to NY (09:32 AM) Orprepus: guys nuts (09:33 AM) Daniel X: keep in mind 1276 and 1311 NQ (09:33 AM) ppusa: what is 1311 (09:33 AM) Daniel X: 1276 we go down...1311 takes us up somemore (09:34 AM) ppusa: see it (09:34 AM) Buffy_04364: tks (09:34 AM) ppusa: think they will pop hi then down (09:34 AM) Daniel X: EMP #s friday (09:34 AM) ppusa: based on PnF (09:34 AM) Orprepus: what are the pivot points for the day (09:34 AM) Daniel X: yes those #s were based on PnF (09:35 AM) BrainStorm: morning (09:35 AM) Daniel X: 1220 is the Pivot (09:35 AM) Daniel X: 1305 is res 1 (09:36 AM) Orprepus: wheres the jobless claim report (09:36 AM) Daniel X: tomorrow (09:37 AM) Orprepus: monthly unemployment is tomorrow (09:37 AM) Orprepus: weekly jobless claims is today (09:37 AM) Daniel X: thnx (09:37 AM) Orprepus: ok (09:37 AM) Orprepus: not on the wire yest I guess (09:37 AM) Daniel X: is was @ 8:30 (09:38 AM) dloomis: highest level in nine years (09:38 AM) dloomis: http://www.msnbc.com/news/637922.asp?0cm=c20 (09:38 AM) Daniel X: we have Factory orders @ 10 (09:38 AM) Daniel X: do nothing till (09:38 AM) Orprepus: thnxs dloomis (09:38 AM) Orprepus: right (09:39 AM) skyprince_1: FOMC minutes at 2:00pm (09:39 AM) Daniel X: but everyone expects a pullback so........... (09:39 AM) ppusa: so spike the high Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (09:39 AM) ppusa: i went short but covered (09:39 AM) ppusa: tick chart obot (09:40 AM) ppusa: like to see 1-2-3 (09:40 AM) ppusa: if takes out 68 could turn into flag or straight down (09:41 AM) Daniel X: i'd really like to grab 1 at the HOD here...yikes (09:41 AM) ppusa: well if i play the 200 point. need new high (09:41 AM) Daniel X: really? (09:42 AM) ppusa: but 30 point way obot (09:42 AM) Orprepus: short es (09:42 AM) ppusa: so whatever (09:42 AM) ppusa: so hold here, make run at HOD, then sell off please (09:43 AM) ann_87: plane went down in russia, with 77 israelis.... they think high probablility act of terrorism (09:43 AM) Buffy_04364: when ann? (09:43 AM) ppusa: also 50 point PnF due to reverse (09:43 AM) ann_87: this am (09:45 AM) Orprepus: gap closed on es (09:45 AM) Orprepus: anyone else prem look out of wack (09:45 AM) Orprepus: feel like i am trading blind without it (09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: sure does look out of wack (09:46 AM) zack_100: I got -3704 for the prem (09:46 AM) ppusa: 1250 reverses 30 point PnF (09:46 AM) Orprepus: not right (09:47 AM) Buffy_04364: low of -4346 (09:47 AM) Orprepus: should be positive (09:47 AM) Daniel X: beautiful 9 min sell (09:47 AM) Orprepus: I guess they didn't like the jobless claim numbers (09:47 AM) ppusa: that drop was a waste of a good PnF chart! (09:48 AM) Orprepus: lol (09:48 AM) ppusa: (except for those that caught it) (09:48 AM) BrainStorm: flat for a bit (09:48 AM) BrainStorm: playing the pullback ppusa ? (09:49 AM) ppusa: tick chart was way obot this morning to confirm drop...lot's of air Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (09:49 AM) ppusa: don't know here (09:49 AM) Daniel X: wait for the report (09:50 AM) ppusa: wait for some kind of setup (09:50 AM) ann_87: globex low 1246 (09:50 AM) Daniel X: if NAPM was + watch Fatory orders (09:50 AM) BrainStorm: did too adds in that last run not very disciplined but felt right after yesterday (09:50 AM) ppusa: lots of congestion in mid 40 area should get taken out sometime (09:50 AM) BrainStorm: too=two Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (09:51 AM) Daniel X: no hero trades plz!!! (09:51 AM) BrainStorm: was ticking just like yesterdays up swing (I know I shouldnt) (09:52 AM) Daniel X: don't know if a 5 point stop will hold you if we spike (09:52 AM) Daniel X: not even a 10 (09:52 AM) BrainStorm: dunno still felt controlled (09:53 AM) ppusa: back at 200 ma tick chart (09:53 AM) Daniel X: im watching 76 like a ........ (09:53 AM) BrainStorm: really dont know how to deal with V and ^ formations (09:53 AM) ppusa: get buy signals if break 76, so let run a vit of thinking short (09:53 AM) ppusa: bit if (09:53 AM) Daniel X: k (09:54 AM) ppusa: short 1293? (09:54 AM) Daniel X: lol (09:55 AM) BrainStorm: Spooky.... essage from my trading platform server 3 users cancel orders and sign off! scary (09:56 AM) BrainStorm: did retro get into this up part ? (09:56 AM) dave_b_quik: what platform is it? (09:56 AM) dave_b_quik: no, retro is flat (09:56 AM) Daniel X: nope only the short (09:56 AM) BrainStorm: Im usint proptrader (09:56 AM) BrainStorm: using (09:56 AM) dave_b_quik: how do you like it? (09:56 AM) BrainStorm: I quite like it...suports 1 click /key entries (09:56 AM) Daniel X: 9/3 min Retro was the winner (09:56 AM) BrainStorm: (though I use a dialogue box) (09:56 AM) Daniel X: 20 points (09:57 AM) Daniel X: 20 point MFE that is (09:57 AM) ppusa: Dave I meant to ask you yester, did you have stops in when nq reversed off the intraday low to catch the up?Like do you run trailing stops all the time? (09:57 AM) BrainStorm: It has a 'fat fingures' function to try and prevent finger slips on number of contracts (09:57 AM) BrainStorm: pretty solid (09:57 AM) Daniel X: lol thats funny (09:57 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, retro always enters on a stop (09:57 AM) BrainStorm: I have signed for IB too but not funded account (09:58 AM) BrainStorm: good to have two brokers two PC's two phoes etc etc (09:58 AM) dave_b_quik: ya (09:58 AM) Daniel X: jump up .....jump down..chop around....sounds like a song (09:59 AM) dave_b_quik: we'll have to have jimbo put some music to that (09:59 AM) BrainStorm: at least the jump up/downs are tradable Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (09:59 AM) BrainStorm: some of the more recent ones have hardly been wide enough to take a chip (09:59 AM) ppusa: looks like market wants to continue uptrend as lows get gobbled up (09:59 AM) Daniel X: he must be on his way home from work (10:00 AM) ppusa: reports now (10:00 AM) ppusa: orders dowm .001 (10:00 AM) ppusa: .01 (10:00 AM) BrainStorm: was the level we ran down too just then significant ? (10:01 AM) ppusa: non events (10:01 AM) ppusa: BS only thing i can think of is last week's high (10:01 AM) ppusa: 1229.5 (10:01 AM) ppusa: now support? (10:01 AM) BrainStorm: similar drop yesterday 4pmish (10:02 AM) ppusa: could be another big up (10:02 AM) ppusa: or if dies, then new lows (10:02 AM) ppusa: think market may make decision soon (10:03 AM) zack_100: I just got that message on the Proptrader "server 3 users sign out now" (10:03 AM) ppusa: sure would like to get 50 point nq reversal (10:04 AM) BrainStorm: you use prop too zack? Im on 2 so OK (I hope) (10:04 AM) jimbo_320: gm all (10:04 AM) Buffy_04364: hi jimbo (10:04 AM) BrainStorm: g'day jimbo (10:05 AM) zack_100: yes i do (10:05 AM) jimbo_320: morning buff, bs (10:05 AM) Daniel X: good evening Jimbo (10:05 AM) zack_100: Brainstorm which broker do you use? (10:05 AM) jimbo_320: dan (10:06 AM) jimbo_320: 1280 nqoos, i going to be trading less contracts soon... (10:06 AM) Daniel X: y is that/ (10:06 AM) Daniel X: ? (10:07 AM) ann_87: ticks 823 (10:07 AM) jimbo_320: 25 % increase means i need 25% more margin 4 same no contracts (10:08 AM) Daniel X: ah i c (10:08 AM) jimmer49: Lost @home connection twice already today - Medford OR. Hope that is not a sign of something. (10:08 AM) ppusa: 1293 (10:08 AM) Daniel X: short (10:09 AM) jimbo_320: today up is the followthrough from the traders who cancelled a short break in order to cover their shorts LOL Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (10:09 AM) BrainStorm: sorry zack was concentrating elsewhere...infinity seem good got direct line to account rep /broker. Who do you use ? (10:09 AM) Daniel X: out (10:10 AM) Daniel X: Daddy r u there? (10:10 AM) ppusa: probably will hit 1300. yes, shorted and covered (10:10 AM) zack_100: Yah the same infinity (10:10 AM) ppusa: funny 1293.5 (10:11 AM) Daniel X: lol (10:11 AM) Jesse888: beautiful (10:11 AM) Buffy_04364: prem is really nuts today orp (10:11 AM) BrainStorm: good experienec with them ? (10:11 AM) ppusa: turns out to be HOD and everyone who doesn't know joke will think i am very special (10:11 AM) zack_100: yes pretty good (10:12 AM) ppusa: sorry zack, running joke between us (10:12 AM) ppusa: "\93" (10:12 AM) Daniel X: lol yes lol (10:12 AM) BrainStorm: think he was answering me p ? (10:12 AM) ppusa: "93" (10:13 AM) Daniel X: i cannot beleive it !!!! (10:13 AM) BrainStorm: rates good leverage there if you need it but only been with the 2 weeks phone 3 times got through straight away each time (10:14 AM) ppusa: is possible hod WORTH 50 - 75 POINTS (10:14 AM) Daniel X: i know i know (10:14 AM) BrainStorm: prolly be long about 1294 give or take not sure where Id take a short at the moment (10:15 AM) ppusa: 10 and 15 obot now (10:15 AM) ppusa: more like 10 (10:15 AM) ppusa: flat and watching (10:15 AM) Daniel X: uh oh chop chop (10:16 AM) jimbo_320: yesterdays retro chart is great (10:16 AM) ppusa: charts are so straight up and down, can't decipher (10:17 AM) Daniel X: we might actually stay between 1276 and 1311 (10:17 AM) Daniel X: NAH (10:17 AM) jimbo_320: auto-retro is coming along well, now working on analysis of info, will keep u posted (10:17 AM) Daniel X: good thnx (10:18 AM) BrainStorm: shout if I can help jimbo (10:18 AM) BrainStorm: starting to get to grips with ESPL (10:19 AM) jimbo_320: keep working on the logic for entries exits (10:19 AM) jimbo_320: thanks bs (10:19 AM) BrainStorm: yes needs to be rigourously defined first (10:19 AM) BrainStorm: Im on the list anyway (Nick Ali) Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (10:20 AM) BrainStorm: 3 pendulums hanging on 5 min candle (made that one up but sure it means something) Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! (10:21 AM) ppusa: there's 10 point reversal...i caught 3.5 on 2 (10:21 AM) jimbo_320: do a lot of people use esy language? , anyone know which packages offer this? Tradestation i know does, any others (10:21 AM) ppusa: Dow down 30 (10:22 AM) ppusa: maybe today will be top (10:22 AM) Orprepus: pp hod in? (10:23 AM) Orprepus: tick 928? (10:23 AM) jimbo_320: nice es clunk (10:23 AM) BrainStorm: Supercharts (does I believe bu that Omega product too (10:23 AM) ppusa: would like to see another run at HOD (10:23 AM) ppusa: reverse 200 point but maybe tomorrow (10:24 AM) jimbo_320: can i get manual of the keywords anywhere? (10:24 AM) Orprepus: make more sense tomorrow with unemployment coming out (10:24 AM) BrainStorm: I'd like to see any pattern bar ways S (10:24 AM) ppusa: sell off today but hold yester low, then another new high tomorrow then down next week??? (10:25 AM) BrainStorm: might take off early today before I start giving back (10:25 AM) ppusa: no way for me to tell (10:25 AM) jimbo_320: u got a crystal ball there? (10:25 AM) ppusa: Brain, play extremes (10:25 AM) ppusa: no trades mid range (10:26 AM) ppusa: crystal ball says 40 area gets taken out (10:26 AM) ppusa: but from what high? (10:28 AM) BrainStorm: still quite liquid (10:28 AM) BrainStorm: figure the floor will be off for breakfirst soon other wise they wont have time before lunch (10:29 AM) BrainStorm: if it was me I'd go for breakfirst somwhere you could stay on for lunch from brakfirst (10:29 AM) Orprepus: lol Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (10:30 AM) BrainStorm: not quite a 2B on 5 min chart from opening high (10:30 AM) ppusa: Dow now -7 (10:30 AM) Daniel X: ok Scalptro (10:32 AM) ppusa: could make case for HOD in on some charts (10:33 AM) jimbo_320: my progress of auto-retro is on my website at http://members.tripod.co.uk/jcssolutions if anyone is interested (10:34 AM) BrainStorm: Zack know if you can do trailing stops on Proptrader ? (10:34 AM) x21r: yee jimbo (10:34 AM) BrainStorm: certainly (10:34 AM) zack_100: yes (10:35 AM) zack_100: I you click on trade in the bottom right corner (10:35 AM) zack_100: you can place mit, lnt, stops (10:35 AM) zack_100: lmt stops (10:36 AM) zack_100: just change to buy or sell and us the stop without the * (10:37 AM) BrainStorm: yes I use those....I want a stop that will trail say $3 behind the last price (10:38 AM) BrainStorm: and that will only go in one direction (10:38 AM) BrainStorm: much prefer trailing to static (10:38 AM) BrainStorm: Does IB offer that ? (10:38 AM) BrainStorm: Im guessing not (10:39 AM) jimbo_320: no Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (10:40 AM) BrainStorm: IB have an API jimbo ? (10:41 AM) BrainStorm: Traingular flag thing forming on the 5 min (10:41 AM) MarkCA: NQ seems to have upward bias while ES has downward bias. Is anyone going NQ long on uptrends and ES short on downtrends? (10:41 AM) BrainStorm: point almost coincident with the open (10:41 AM) jimbo_320: negotiating with them at the moment (10:41 AM) Orprepus: BS that would thingy (10:42 AM) BrainStorm: Mark was but got stopped out on up Nas sitting aside as the rsik reward not so good (10:42 AM) dave_b_quik: mark, i forget who was doing an ES/NQ spread one day (10:49 AM) BrainStorm: retro long dave ? (10:49 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, 1291.5 Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (10:50 AM) BrainStorm: feeling 'long' myself here (10:50 AM) dave_b_quik: but about to get stopped out if this is a 2B on the 5m (10:50 AM) BrainStorm: missed the long bar bo Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! (10:51 AM) BrainStorm: wanted 30% more volume rather than just a bit more (10:53 AM) ppusa: for those wanting to go long, i think HOD is in here somewhere (10:54 AM) BrainStorm: zack know if I can edit a stop limit in proptrader (I've been pulling & re entering) ? (10:55 AM) ppusa: so far only a 50 point range (10:55 AM) zack_100: i pull and re-enter as well (10:56 AM) BrainStorm: too slow sometimes (10:56 AM) zack_100: yah (10:57 AM) zack_100: could enter two and cancel the other one when it is filled (10:57 AM) BrainStorm: realy need to be able to nudge stops up to my mind (10:58 AM) dave_b_quik: most brokers you have to cancel and replace (10:58 AM) jimbo_320: 1300 yippee (10:58 AM) zack_100: I'm ask a friend that uses the proptrader your question (10:58 AM) ppusa: 200 p[oint (10:59 AM) zack_100: Brain he says you can amend a stop in the working area Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (11:00 AM) BrainStorm: 1300 (11:00 AM) BrainStorm: thanks zack (11:00 AM) jimbo_320: 1600 comp (11:01 AM) zack_100: your welcome (11:01 AM) BrainStorm: Could you ask to clarify 'working area' I tried doing it on the status tab does he mean on the actual trade box ? (11:03 AM) zack_100: under the status tab when you have a working order left click to highlight it and the press amend in the bottom left corner (11:04 AM) zack_100: you can try in with a limit buy way below market (11:04 AM) BrainStorm: please relay my thanks (to both of you) (11:04 AM) Daniel X: remember i said 1311 takes us up (11:05 AM) zack_100: your welcome, i will Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (11:10 AM) Daniel X: is today yesterday or today? (11:11 AM) jam_27: anybody know what is breakout number for es is? (11:11 AM) Daniel X: 80 i think (11:11 AM) Daniel X: ask JImbo (11:12 AM) jam_27: Jimbo what is the breakout number for es? thanks (11:15 AM) jimbo_320: not sure but gap close on daily is 86 so i'd watch for sellers there (11:15 AM) jam_27: thanks (11:16 AM) jimbo_320: i'll be selling mine there if we get there ! Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Subscribe to Paltalk Plus to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (11:24 AM) Daniel X: remember 1311 takes us higher (11:25 AM) ppusa: as opposed to filling 1311 and down? (11:25 AM) ppusa: personaaly i don't know why nq would come all the way here and not go higher? (11:26 AM) ppusa: everyone think sell here and get run out (11:27 AM) ann_87: start of gap for nq is 1321 (11:27 AM) jimbo_320: sold half es for +7 (11:29 AM) ppusa: current nq daily range 72 points today Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (11:31 AM) Daniel X: PPUSA where is that samn pullback!!!!!! (11:31 AM) jam_27: Jimbo, not many sellers at 86 , is that a long sign (11:31 AM) ppusa: ma's very steep up (11:32 AM) ppusa: if bottom of market is in, no pg (11:32 AM) ppusa: pb (11:32 AM) ppusa: gets back to the monthly (11:34 AM) ppusa: sure obot hee (11:34 AM) ppusa: here (11:34 AM) ppusa: oh my a lower low (11:36 AM) ppusa: HOD? (11:38 AM) ppusa: short one at 1314 with stop at 1312 (11:39 AM) ppusa: probably cancel stop and cover mrkt (11:39 AM) ppusa: chicken Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (11:40 AM) ppusa: looking for 1305 to reverse 15 point (11:40 AM) elly_34: dave would u have tightened up the stop on the test of 1321? (11:41 AM) ann_87: i think yes (11:41 AM) ann_87: test of important swing (11:41 AM) ppusa: stopped out (11:41 AM) ppusa: to close (11:43 AM) jimbo_320: out the rest (11:44 AM) jimbo_320: jam, a good break through could be a long sign (11:45 AM) jimbo_320: sorry about delay cutting code and trading at the same time ... Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (11:51 AM) gunner-: quiet here,, need help in picking new name for our room at talktsox..any suggestions /// (I like Coffee Shop :) ) Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (11:54 AM) jimbo_320: Traders Coffee Shop (11:55 AM) Orprepus: Coffee Shop & Juice (11:56 AM) jimbo_320: Gunners Juice Shop (11:56 AM) ppusa: talkstox (11:57 AM) gunner-: Juice Shop,, like it LOL (11:57 AM) bethcut: sounds good: Gunners Juice Shop (11:57 AM) ppusa: what are you going to discuss? (11:57 AM) Daniel X: BearishBullRoom (11:57 AM) gunner-: ppusa same as always :) (11:58 AM) ppusa: was it talksox or talkstox (11:58 AM) Daniel X: TradeZone (11:58 AM) Daniel X: what ever (11:58 AM) ppusa: thought there was one stox (11:59 AM) gunner-: site is at talkstox.com (11:59 AM) bethcut: why not just use the talkstox ? (11:59 AM) bethcut: since you are know by that Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (12:01 PM) gunner-: damm I use beta Paltalk, ,wipes out text every so often (12:01 PM) Orprepus: beta isn't worth it (12:03 PM) gunner-: bethcut talkstox is the host,, current room "Gunners Targets",, want to make that less personal.. (12:03 PM) Daniel X: i swear yesterday's and todays 15 min chart are identical!!! (12:04 PM) Daniel X: pullbacks at the same time and all (12:04 PM) Daniel X: so we should break out up after these 2 15 min pullback bars (12:04 PM) Daniel X: that wud be funny (12:04 PM) ppusa: love to go short here (12:04 PM) ppusa: don't know why (12:05 PM) ppusa: guess think HOD is in (12:05 PM) ppusa: one more run? (12:05 PM) Daniel X: don't bet on it (12:05 PM) ppusa: lots of PnF obot (12:06 PM) ppusa: no bets here (12:06 PM) ppusa: yet (12:06 PM) gunner-: been super trading day so far (12:07 PM) latkinso: Buffy: have time to answer a quick question about ensign? Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (12:10 PM) ppusa: retro buy? retracement bar rule? (12:11 PM) Daniel X: after this bar we might get the explosive continuation up bar (12:11 PM) dave_b_quik: retro is long at 1310.50 (12:12 PM) gunner-: dave somehow got in retro club and set op wrong ,got 40 emails before got it shut off LOL (12:12 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL, you must have gotten the whole history (12:12 PM) dave_b_quik: how's the "gunners targets" group going? (12:13 PM) gunner-: good,, looking for more general name (12:13 PM) gunner-: if you set wrong thing, ,yahoo emails EVERY post !! (12:13 PM) Daniel X: kinda Pro War sounding (12:14 PM) gunner-: Daniel what you think trading is,,? not all on ur side LOL (12:14 PM) Daniel X: ha (12:14 PM) dave_b_quik: sorry about that, gunner (12:15 PM) gunner-: dave my own fault , man (12:16 PM) Daniel X: ok lets see if this is the bar thats going to get attention (12:16 PM) ppusa: looks like failed retest of high (12:17 PM) Daniel X: gotta macth the low of the previous roughly (12:17 PM) Orprepus: about time (12:17 PM) ppusa: 2B 15 min (12:18 PM) ppusa: 16 point PnF could use a break of 05 (12:18 PM) Daniel X: uh huh (12:18 PM) ppusa: then new high? (12:18 PM) ppusa: think that's the plan (12:19 PM) latkinso: Hi: Can anyone tell me the best way to send a copy of ensign chart as attachment to e-mail? (12:19 PM) Daniel X: think so too (12:19 PM) BrainStorm: latkinso control J saves the chart as a .JPG graphic file (12:19 PM) ppusa: everyone thinking HOD then one more fakey (12:20 PM) latkinso: Where is it stored when saved? Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (12:20 PM) BrainStorm: setup -> Images allows you to set the directory that it goes in (12:20 PM) Daniel X: specify desktop (12:20 PM) ppusa: covered short here though 15 min looks down (12:20 PM) Daniel X: lunch pb (12:21 PM) Daniel X: i hope (12:21 PM) gunner-: good trading folks :) (12:21 PM) Daniel X: 1293 limit sell in (12:21 PM) ppusa: charts looking more like HOD Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away! Press the invite button NOW! (12:21 PM) ppusa: we'll see, still early (12:22 PM) jimbo_320: retracement due from 86 (12:22 PM) Daniel X: i was hoping we wudnt stay between 1276 and 1311 and looks like about that so far (12:23 PM) Daniel X: well this bar did get attention (12:23 PM) ppusa: dow only +20 (12:24 PM) ppusa: beed food brb (12:24 PM) ppusa: need some too (12:25 PM) Daniel X: PnF happy with that move ..can we resume the up move (12:25 PM) Daniel X: oops looks like NO! (12:26 PM) Daniel X: Retro short from 6 Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (12:36 PM) ppusa: everyone use retro, everyone has stops same place (12:36 PM) ppusa: 7 could remain as high for this hour in which case, down (12:37 PM) ppusa: keep forgetting still early (12:37 PM) ppusa: one more run? (12:38 PM) ppusa: walk dogs, brb Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Go bannerless and support PalTalk! Subscribe today! Only $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (12:52 PM) elly_34: jimbo are you here? (12:54 PM) dave_b_quik: might have to shout, elly (12:56 PM) elly_34: it's alright dave, i'll do it later (12:56 PM) elly_34: well actually dave maybe u know (12:56 PM) elly_34: since it is about retro (12:56 PM) Daniel X: hhmmm could it be that trend am,chop lunch,and trend pm days are back! (12:57 PM) dave_b_quik: i'll try elly (12:57 PM) elly_34: is he trying to make retro with Interactive brokers a completly mechanical system,,,,as far as order entry etc? (12:57 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, that's what i understand (12:57 PM) Daniel X: yah i think so (12:57 PM) dave_b_quik: turn it on and go to the beach (12:57 PM) elly_34: i have IB already, though no futures account, (12:57 PM) elly_34: will it be linked thru ensign do u know? (12:58 PM) dave_b_quik: i don't think jimbo uses ensign (12:58 PM) MarkCA: who are you using now Elly? (12:58 PM) elly_34: i dont trade futures mark (12:58 PM) elly_34: options mostly right now but i think i am getting retro (12:59 PM) elly_34: i think i need a pretty mechanical system because futures scare me (12:59 PM) elly_34: well plus retro is incredible and i don't have a scalping mentality (12:59 PM) ppusa: hi waleed, what's up? (12:59 PM) elly_34: all those things combine plus i love IB (12:59 PM) MarkCA: what is your chart feed? (01:00 PM) elly_34: esignal Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (01:01 PM) elly_34: why mark? (01:02 PM) MarkCA: i am working on a custom trading simulator that uses real time data. at the moment, it works off RealTick data feed, but I hope to expand it to ESignal also. If I can do that, you might be interested in "paper trading" with it, since you can scalp all day and it generates nice statistics on your trades. (01:03 PM) MarkCA: its a good confidence builder (01:03 PM) elly_34: yes, i am interested (01:03 PM) skyprince_1: Me too! (01:03 PM) MarkCA: anyone here on Realtick now? (01:03 PM) skyprince_1: esignal here (01:03 PM) david h_2: yes (01:03 PM) elly_34: but i am not going to use realtick (01:04 PM) skyprince_1: 15 minute dojis...UGH! (01:05 PM) MarkCA: david h who are you executing with? (01:05 PM) david h_2: mb (01:06 PM) elly_34: didnt know realtick had futures quotes (01:06 PM) david h_2: yes (01:06 PM) elly_34: mark,,,will you let us know in here or do u want my email address? (01:07 PM) MarkCA: realtick has free emini feed for 6 months and then $10/mo in addition to the "stock feed" feed of about $260/mo. For full futures feed, I believe it is $60/mo above price of stock feed. (01:08 PM) latkinso: I forgor to thank the one who helped me earlier, so thanks to (01:08 PM) latkinso: whoever it was (01:08 PM) elly_34: thing is i like what i have so not gonna switch (01:08 PM) MarkCA: thats why I am trying to have the simulator work with all major feeds. so no one has to switch. (01:09 PM) snappy33: mark, i have realtick (01:09 PM) elly_34: have a website mark? (01:09 PM) MarkCA: no (01:09 PM) MarkCA: its still a prototype at this point. (01:10 PM) elly_34: k (01:10 PM) elly_34: well i am not fond of scalping, i tried it with stocks and not for me (01:10 PM) elly_34: but a confidence builder for es and nq would be good Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (01:10 PM) elly_34: dave did u take that retro long? (01:12 PM) dave_b_quik: no, but we have a definitive breakout on the 5m now, so looking to get back in (01:13 PM) elly_34: maybe i interpreted the 1.2,3 too soon bu i thought second inside bar on 15 min was good to go (01:15 PM) elly_34: brb (01:15 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, elly, if you didn't have 2 consecutive losses :-( Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (01:20 PM) ppusa: coming off this last push quickly (01:21 PM) ppusa: shorting op? (01:21 PM) ppusa: support here, breaks and down Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (01:21 PM) dave_b_quik: choportunity knocks (01:21 PM) dbphoenix: Tough to say, pp. Looks like plain ol' chop to me. (01:22 PM) jimmer49: noportunity (01:23 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL (01:23 PM) dbphoenix: What were the MACD signals today, jimmer? (01:24 PM) ppusa: still higher highs, higher lows (01:24 PM) donsuelo: plainoldchop=plop (01:25 PM) jimmer49: 5 min macd conservative buys on 5 min at 0945 & a weak one at 1225 (01:25 PM) ppusa: always chop before trend (01:26 PM) ppusa: if break support quite a bit lower so maybe a good trade ififif (01:27 PM) dbphoenix: Do you define "weak" by feel, or is there a specific definition? (01:27 PM) ppusa: who me? (01:27 PM) dbphoenix: No, jimmer. (01:27 PM) ppusa: k (01:28 PM) ppusa: i got a live one (01:29 PM) jimmer49: weak because trend getting tired (01:29 PM) dbphoenix: Trend defined by ADX? Sorry to be such a pest. (01:30 PM) jimmer49: defined by eyeball - nothing specific Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. 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(01:36 PM) ppusa: down, flat and up (01:36 PM) ppusa: tick down (01:37 PM) ppusa: 5 flat (01:37 PM) ppusa: 15 mixed (01:38 PM) ppusa: having trouble selling off. maybe i should forget it, but (01:39 PM) jimmer49: Bush again (01:39 PM) ppusa: everytime nq gets a higher high it runs stops (01:39 PM) ppusa: can see it in trades (01:40 PM) ppusa: none of the charts have broken down YET (01:40 PM) ppusa: teaasing (01:40 PM) dbphoenix: There's all that resistance between 1600 and 1650 to chew through on the Naz. Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! 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Click Here ========================================== (01:51 PM) ppusa: it's a 1-2-3 off failed retest on 15 minute (01:51 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, but 20EMA15 is right below, so ??? Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (01:51 PM) ppusa: how come none of you pointed that out from chop talk (01:51 PM) ppusa: right below meaning support? (01:52 PM) dbphoenix: Yeah. It's at 1292. (01:52 PM) dbphoenix: Provided support this morning and late yesterday. Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. (01:54 PM) ppusa: this re-emphasize (01:55 PM) jimbo_320: more chop huh? (01:55 PM) dbphoenix: Trend is still up, but you've got a 2B. Therefore, something has to break to show where the new trend is, if any. So wait or scalp. But even scalping is difficult when it's this tight. (01:57 PM) jimbo_320: y (01:57 PM) ppusa: i scalped a lot the last couple hours but with a couple mistakes, hardly worth while (01:58 PM) dbphoenix: Actually, I shouldn't say 2B, since the 2B depends on how you define failure. If it holds above the 20p, it's just a pullback. (01:59 PM) ppusa: this last rally died hard at 1min and 30 tick 200ma's (01:59 PM) ppusa: and 5 min 20 ma (01:59 PM) ppusa: trend change (01:59 PM) ppusa: dow up 5 days higher highs, higher lows Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (02:02 PM) elly_34: anyone looked at adx on the 3 min? (02:02 PM) ppusa: wants to die (02:02 PM) ppusa: maybe i could help it along (02:03 PM) dave_b_quik: hmm, ADX under 15 on NQ3m and 5m (02:04 PM) ppusa: i have concluded it's easier to scalp short after the HOD is in (02:04 PM) ppusa: duh (02:06 PM) dbphoenix: Only problem is determining whether or not the HOD is in :0) (02:06 PM) ppusa: all charts reversed 30 and below...now 50+ left would mean LOD or lower low tomorrow (02:06 PM) ppusa: yes dbp but not to difficult if patient (02:08 PM) ppusa: one must wait an appropriate amount of time after LOD...nothing more (02:08 PM) ppusa: sometimes i see wildly overextended charts and go to soon (02:09 PM) dbphoenix: So bizarre to listen to CNBC talking about what a great rally we're having and we're watching these support levels being taken out. (02:10 PM) ppusa: sickening (02:10 PM) jimbo_320: covered half es 86 short (02:10 PM) ppusa: should sue for billions (02:10 PM) dbphoenix: The rally's intact, tho. CNBC says so. Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (02:11 PM) Daniel X: out NQ 86 (02:11 PM) ppusa: could be right (02:11 PM) ppusa: not (02:12 PM) ppusa: anyone short with a good cost basis could go for the gold and stay short to see if trend reverses (02:13 PM) ppusa: should have lower low tomorrow (02:13 PM) ppusa: i kept getting in late, covering, in late, cover, etc (02:13 PM) ppusa: dow -18 should change cnbc tone (02:13 PM) jimbo_320: out the rest +9 (02:14 PM) Daniel X: need a bounce (02:14 PM) ppusa: jimbo what triggered your entry (02:14 PM) MarkCA: a bounce to go lower? (02:15 PM) jimbo_320: 86 gap close on daily it i had moe bottle i would hold it (02:16 PM) Daniel X: no bounce tio reenter short (02:16 PM) Daniel X: so yes (02:17 PM) MarkCA: thats what I thought you meant, but wanted to be sure. (02:17 PM) Daniel X: kewl (02:17 PM) Daniel X: np (02:17 PM) ppusa: 70 would reverse 50 point (02:18 PM) Daniel X: PP guess wher iwas short from? (02:18 PM) ppusa: no unh unh (02:18 PM) Daniel X: yes (02:18 PM) ppusa: no way (02:18 PM) ppusa: son of a (02:18 PM) Daniel X: covered already though (02:19 PM) jimbo_320: 1300? (02:19 PM) Daniel X: 93 (02:20 PM) Daniel X: just for PPUSA (02:20 PM) jimbo_320: anyone else sell 86? Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (02:21 PM) Daniel X: going to or did? (02:21 PM) MarkCA: me, but on the simulator (02:21 PM) MarkCA: from 97.5 Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. (02:22 PM) Daniel X: i covered 86 and 83 (02:22 PM) jimbo_320: i mean 86 es (02:22 PM) Daniel X: oh sorry (02:22 PM) Daniel X: lol (02:22 PM) jimbo_320: gap help (02:22 PM) jimbo_320: gap held (02:23 PM) Roger Schelling: I managed to get short @ 1084 ES, hopefully will be good for a while (02:23 PM) Daniel X: good Rog!hope so too (02:23 PM) Roger Schelling: i need one :) (02:24 PM) Daniel X: Train coming ...careful shorting! (02:24 PM) Daniel X: unless its Southbound! (02:24 PM) ppusa: i should have unloaded this last bounce..Dow trying to stay respectable (02:24 PM) Daniel X: that low might have very well been the bottom of the tracks (02:25 PM) ppusa: yes, but doubt it (02:25 PM) ppusa: y r referring to low from a few minutes ago i assume (02:25 PM) Daniel X: the majority of the time 2 things happen....either the selling pauses or we move up (02:26 PM) Daniel X: so far selling paused (02:26 PM) Daniel X: yes the low just now (02:27 PM) ppusa: just because say 50 point pullback or lower low tomorrow doesn't confirm change of trend (02:27 PM) Daniel X: Choo Choo chuga chuga (02:27 PM) MarkCA: with support at 1280 think downside short term trade limited (02:27 PM) Daniel X: Vix way oversold so wondering of this move was enough (02:28 PM) ppusa: need another dump (02:28 PM) Daniel X: Retro still short from 1302.50 (02:29 PM) ppusa: 70 (02:29 PM) elly_34: fis that 15 min signal daniel? (02:29 PM) Daniel X: as teraget? (02:29 PM) Daniel X: target? (02:29 PM) dave_b_quik: retro added at 1298 and 1292 (02:29 PM) ppusa: don't want to know (02:30 PM) ppusa: where was first? (02:30 PM) dave_b_quik: 1302.50 Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (02:31 PM) ppusa: surprised you didn't add at 1293 just to piss me off (02:31 PM) elly_34: i show that retro would've been stopped out -5 from 1302.5 (02:31 PM) elly_34: 10:30 bar? (02:31 PM) Daniel X: i wud of!!LOL (02:31 PM) jimbo_320: posted es 86 short (02:32 PM) jimbo_320: chart jimbo1 (02:32 PM) elly_34: don't tell me my bars are bad again (02:32 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL i see what you mean, elly (02:32 PM) Daniel X: PnF 76 big # (02:33 PM) elly_34: do u show it stopped? (02:33 PM) elly_34: too? (02:33 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, good thing i missed that one (02:33 PM) jimbo_320: see if we can get a puke going (02:34 PM) MarkCA: Daniel X, you use any premarket data on PnF? (02:34 PM) elly_34: we are not even to a sig retrace move from the low of the other day, i think we're just working off some of the excess (02:35 PM) ann_87: es at 30ema (02:36 PM) wayne_53: LOD 71.75 on ES (02:37 PM) PieterGTI20V: hi (02:38 PM) ppusa: Maria said there was talk of market now being oversold...can you believe that (02:38 PM) skyprince_1: Naw...ya think? (02:38 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL, i'd like to see her account (02:39 PM) Daniel X: Mark not really (02:39 PM) Daniel X: PPUSA do u? (02:39 PM) ppusa: yes short term (02:40 PM) Daniel X: but PnF uses it autimatically....there charts do not recognoze days ..they're continuos (02:40 PM) Daniel X: wow horible grammer and spelling!!LOL (02:40 PM) Daniel X: trying to trade...sorry (02:41 PM) jimbo_320: sold half long es +1.5 (02:41 PM) ppusa: maybe time to stand aside. have had nice drop Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (02:41 PM) ppusa: could collapse but (02:42 PM) ppusa: yesterday's high here (02:42 PM) ppusa: barring collapse, may trade above 76 tomorrow (02:42 PM) skyprince_1: Some support here.... Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. (02:46 PM) ppusa: look at time charts...took out everylow after first hour. (02:46 PM) ppusa: llittle gap at 72.5 area 15 min ...just noticed it, would satisfy 50 point PnF when filled (02:47 PM) ppusa: so big deal, where is next real trend (02:47 PM) Daniel X: 3 box rev tells me we should continue down from here (02:48 PM) Daniel X: 3rd one since 1314 (02:49 PM) ppusa: yes but if only going to 70 and then only tomorrow, amy be good to quit for day (02:49 PM) ppusa: yes i think collapse (02:49 PM) ppusa: but if it doesn't happen???? (02:50 PM) Daniel X: 3 box rev side by side sell and buy (02:50 PM) Daniel X: now Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (02:58 PM) x21r: . (02:59 PM) jimbo_320: trading well today (02:59 PM) jimbo_320: signals are all working for a change (02:59 PM) ppusa: i thought it was later than it is. still an hourleft (03:01 PM) ppusa: hard to play those 50 point reversals cos if you miss by a couple ticks, you get screwed Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (03:03 PM) ppusa: just like the 30 yesterday. went to 42, never reversed (03:04 PM) ppusa: hummm1293 (03:10 PM) ann_87: ib 5 nq Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (03:15 PM) eemb: . (03:20 PM) skyprince_1: Ouch..that retro add got taken out quickly! Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (03:22 PM) ann_87: yea ouch, that trader vic 1 2 3 pivot of 97 alot of resistance (03:23 PM) skyprince_1: yep (03:27 PM) jimbo_320: gotta go, have a good evening (03:30 PM) ppusa: 147 sides today (03:31 PM) ppusa: about...74 rt's (03:31 PM) snappy33: how was result pp? 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Click Here ========================================== (03:32 PM) ppusa: took a good whack early, fight back to b/e, loose, back to b/e loose etc (03:32 PM) Daniel X: opss 34 RTs 17 trades (03:33 PM) ppusa: i l've tried to add them up but to distracting (03:33 PM) ppusa: after close (03:34 PM) ppusa: need to be more aggressive buyer on dips (03:34 PM) Daniel X: yes and selling the tps (03:34 PM) ppusa: maybe that will change here (03:34 PM) Daniel X: looks like its getting worsenot better (03:34 PM) ppusa: this last hour inside hour so far (03:35 PM) ppusa: yes, so do not need to be aggressive buyer if it does (03:36 PM) Daniel X: sold 93 3 times lol (03:37 PM) Daniel X: this 1 im going to hold b/e @ 92.50 (03:37 PM) Daniel X: see what happens (03:39 PM) Daniel X: cutting 1 away can't at least (03:39 PM) ppusa: just sold 83.5 civered 81 (03:39 PM) ppusa: charts are all rolling over (03:40 PM) ppusa: may stay here Dan, no advice (03:40 PM) ppusa: short term PnF's could small bounce...in sell a couple (03:40 PM) Daniel X: rsi divergence (03:41 PM) ppusa: overall still biased down (03:41 PM) ppusa: didn't realize there was so much time left on last sell off (03:41 PM) Daniel X: i know it feels like 4 pm (03:42 PM) ppusa: after 150 trades or so i think yea Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (03:42 PM) ppusa: here is your break you dog (03:43 PM) ppusa: cover (03:43 PM) ppusa: what the heck (03:44 PM) ann_87: what is the news? (03:44 PM) skyprince_1: What was that? (03:44 PM) ppusa: did you get someof that? (03:44 PM) ppusa: haven't heard any yet (03:44 PM) ppusa: think they just decided to let loose (03:45 PM) ann_87: report of anthrax case in florida hospital (03:45 PM) Daniel X: covered 66.50 (03:45 PM) ppusa: ann you are looking 100 percent correcto on your fill the gap and short call from yesterday. Hope you benefit well (03:46 PM) ann_87: i did ok, i did not short at the gap immediately lol (03:46 PM) skyprince_1: Yesterday, a hijack scare, today anthrax...same time of day...weird. (03:46 PM) ppusa: that shot down plane this morning was a mistake by Russian army (03:47 PM) skyprince_1: The world is jumpy! (03:47 PM) jimmer49: last I heard Russians said no shoot down by them - still in doubt (03:48 PM) ppusa: yes ann patience pays (03:48 PM) ppusa: jimmer, i don't know, thought blew midair and they said they did it (03:48 PM) Daniel X: well that was a gift..didn't get one of those in a while (03:49 PM) ppusa: great trade Dan (03:49 PM) ann_87: cool daniel (03:49 PM) ann_87: don't spend it all in one place (03:49 PM) Daniel X: got an instant headache when i saw it spike down (03:50 PM) ppusa: here too (03:50 PM) ppusa: lol (03:50 PM) ppusa: needless to say, nq hit 70 thankyou (03:50 PM) Daniel X: figured it would have come right back through my b/e stop (03:50 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer...Ukraine has confessed...they did it. a little mistake.... (03:50 PM) Daniel X: lol 70 it did (03:50 PM) skyprince_1: Seems a SAM got away from them.... (03:51 PM) Daniel X: really a 'Sam" or Osami? (03:51 PM) jimmer49: I heard that and then later retracted I thought (03:51 PM) Daniel X: Surface to air missile? Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (03:52 PM) jimmer49: White House press briefing now may clarify (03:52 PM) ppusa: 74 to 75.5 (03:52 PM) skyprince_1: Naw....Ukraine military said it was them....yes, surface to air... (03:52 PM) Daniel X: oh ok Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (03:56 PM) ppusa: CNBC "get by today" (03:56 PM) skyprince_1: So, how did retro deal with that?? :) (03:57 PM) dave_b_quik: i just got back, did i miss something? (03:57 PM) skyprince_1: Looks like a sell at 1281, but where is the exit? (03:58 PM) skyprince_1: Yeah Dave....big spike down on news... (03:58 PM) dave_b_quik: retro doesn't have a rule to exit on a spike (03:58 PM) skyprince_1: Oooo...seat of the pants, huh? (03:58 PM) dave_b_quik: thot about keeping a working profit limit order in, but too much trouble (03:59 PM) ppusa: i didn't hear any news from CNBC (03:59 PM) skyprince_1: Wasn't on CNBC... (03:59 PM) skyprince_1: I got it on two message boards though.... (03:59 PM) ppusa: i think it was just people buying at first drop and then getting slammed (04:00 PM) ppusa: hey if this is trading, imagine what Friday chop will be (04:00 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL, maybe we shud take the day off? (04:00 PM) skyprince_1: Man, you can reallly move markets on rumors at times like this.... (04:01 PM) Daniel X: well thats it for me what a tough day...thinking of taking tomorrow off roght after the EMP # news (04:01 PM) ppusa: Sky pattern suggestd a flag and when it went sour, tanked (04:01 PM) Daniel X: have a great evening everyone. (04:01 PM) ppusa: yes, too badyou didn't reinitiate (04:01 PM) ppusa: bye (04:02 PM) skyprince_1: Short the world, call in a report of a terrorist attack or threat to UP or API, and rake it in...some idiot will probably try it. (04:02 PM) david h_2: off to the wtc Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (04:03 PM) skyprince_1: yep (04:05 PM) elly_34: how did retro do? (04:05 PM) elly_34: i lost track (04:08 PM) dave_b_quik: me too, i had to leave (04:08 PM) dave_b_quik: does anybody have the afternoon retro trades? (04:08 PM) leo_574: Hi Im leo_574 whats up. (04:08 PM) dave_b_quik: hi leo574 (04:09 PM) Orprepus: dave how retro do today (04:09 PM) leo_574: what do you have for sale (04:09 PM) dave_b_quik: gonna have to reconstruct retro for while i was gone, orp (04:10 PM) Orprepus: jimbo still around (04:10 PM) skyprince_1: Shoot, I quit trading retro at noon....when ADX started heading down. (04:12 PM) skyprince_1: Still learning retro and its nuances. Trying to stick to rules and accept small losses. I still try to second guess it about 25% - 30% of time...all to no good end. Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. 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(07:23 PM) Ensign Software: have Cancel button working to preserve original (07:23 PM) Ensign Software: so no word is good word (07:23 PM) Ensign Software: if roger shows up, I just replied to his e-mail about daily price lines on HIS system did not find yesterday's high and low. (07:24 PM) Ensign Software: They work for me, so there must be something about his configuration, like market hours that is the source of the difference. (07:24 PM) Ensign Software: A request for the chart properties image from his chart was in my reply and my example (07:25 PM) Ensign Software: not a session issue. (07:25 PM) Ensign Software: think he has different hours (07:25 PM) Ensign Software: my open is 830 to 15:15 and then 15:45 to 8:30 for 2nd session hours (07:26 PM) Ensign Software: anyway, need to see his settings to discover what problem might be (07:26 PM) Ensign Software: I can fix what I see, but don't know what to fix when I cannot see it. (07:27 PM) Ensign Software: no reply to private chat, so he must be gone for the night. (07:27 PM) Ensign Software: he will get the e-mail and we can probably resolve it by comparing market hours. doubt I need to fix program, but maybe I do. Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (07:28 PM) Ensign Software: yes, that too (07:28 PM) Ensign Software: will go do a new build and upload as 4c now and then go eat dinner (07:29 PM) Ensign Software: will be uploaded in about 10 minutes, I will say when it is there (07:30 PM) Ensign Software: thought of that too, and thought you either are brave or have short memory (07:30 PM) Ensign Software: you must not have children still at home (07:31 PM) Ensign Software: my youngest is 8 (07:31 PM) Ensign Software: you sound so much younger (07:31 PM) Ensign Software: probably have youthful look to match your voice (07:33 PM) Merkur_: 20? (07:34 PM) Merkur_: :) (07:35 PM) Merkur_: i think, i am one of the youngest here :) (07:35 PM) Merkur_: sorry, my english is not the best :) I am from Germany (07:36 PM) Merkur_: :) thx (07:37 PM) Merkur_: :) oh yes, i am one of the youngest here ;)) Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! 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Click Here ========================================== (07:49 PM) Ensign Software: ok, do you think the loss of the quote list is related to the lock up in the download process?? (07:49 PM) Roger Schelling: Hi I just got back (07:50 PM) Ensign Software: roger, go read my reply and send me the image I asked for (07:50 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (07:50 PM) Ensign Software: k, will watch for that as a clue (07:51 PM) Ensign Software: tell him to first , ask later (07:51 PM) Ensign Software: what have you heard about anthrax in florida?? Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (07:53 PM) Ensign Software: do you know if anthrax is a chemical, or a viru, or a bacteria? (07:56 PM) katigal: greets the room. (07:57 PM) Buffy_04364: hi katigal (07:58 PM) katigal: waves at Buffy_04364 Hello Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (08:00 PM) Ensign Software: drh just downloaded 4c v (08:00 PM) Ensign Software: don't know, he might come here yet (08:01 PM) Buffy_04364: katigal - you are talking like you too are from the old BB days (08:01 PM) Ensign Software: don't think he has ever lost a quote sheet (08:01 PM) Buffy_04364: oh well if anyone is going to be different it will be me (08:01 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (08:01 PM) katigal: lol (08:01 PM) katigal: yep been around for a wile! (08:02 PM) Ensign Software: you are holding on to the other end of the short stick that beanman is holding (08:02 PM) Ensign Software: both of you should give the stick back to Murphy (08:02 PM) Ensign Software: it is his stick (08:02 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL I knew it - me too long before aol etc - just used the net to get to your favorite BB (08:02 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (08:03 PM) Buffy_04364: My sons often remind me I am the one to have the odd things happen like a mother board that occassionally fails (08:03 PM) Buffy_04364: can't hear you (08:03 PM) Buffy_04364: you were breaking up too bad (08:03 PM) Buffy_04364: or the partially bad memory stick (08:03 PM) Buffy_04364: Keytronic is the only keyboard I can use (08:03 PM) katigal: I was breaking up? (08:04 PM) Buffy_04364: yes and couldn't understand you (08:04 PM) Ensign Software: great, (08:04 PM) katigal: w sorry. (08:04 PM) Buffy_04364: that was an easy one Howard (08:04 PM) Ensign Software: what were your times so I can recognize problem in future (08:04 PM) Buffy_04364: np katigal (08:04 PM) Buffy_04364: just type (08:04 PM) Ensign Software: ok, the overlap confused EW (08:04 PM) katigal: k (08:05 PM) Ensign Software: glad it is solved (08:05 PM) Buffy_04364: handing katigal a keyboard :-) (08:05 PM) Ensign Software: did you just download 4c version (08:05 PM) Buffy_04364: another one (08:05 PM) Ensign Software: k (08:05 PM) katigal: lol (08:05 PM) Ensign Software: thks (08:05 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (08:06 PM) Ensign Software: Y R U lol (08:06 PM) Ensign Software: buffy now has a ? to ask you Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (08:10 PM) Buffy_04364: waiting for answer (08:10 PM) Buffy_04364: most probably due to lockup then howard (08:11 PM) Buffy_04364: will go back to always closing DM first (08:12 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone know where to send the webscams to? (08:12 PM) katigal: THis is my first here, so I don't know who's who or what's what andI'm breaking up. and I'm not sure if any of that text is directed to me. (sigh) (08:12 PM) Buffy_04364: well welcome katigal (08:12 PM) Buffy_04364: has you sound always worked well in the past or are you new to paltalk also (08:12 PM) katigal: thx Buffy (08:13 PM) Ensign Software: most of the chat text was between me, buffy and roger (08:13 PM) katigal: I've never had problems before. (08:13 PM) Buffy_04364: so try to exit and come back in and see if that fixes it (08:13 PM) katigal: I've had Pal for about a year I tik. (08:13 PM) katigal: think. (08:13 PM) katigal: ol (08:13 PM) Buffy_04364: ok so just might be that (08:13 PM) katigal: ok (08:14 PM) Buffy_04364: ever since they were down that time we have had to do that a lot (08:14 PM) Buffy_04364: gee a bad tick (08:14 PM) Buffy_04364: don't see that often (08:15 PM) Buffy_04364: data very clean howard IMO (08:16 PM) Buffy_04364: my file is still in there for the quote sheet - interesting (08:18 PM) Ensign Software: yes Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (08:19 PM) Ensign Software: exit ew, install file, rerun ew (08:19 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (08:20 PM) Ensign Software: were you reinstalling ew? (08:20 PM) Ensign Software: or just exiting ew (08:20 PM) Roger Schelling: Oh k, I'm gone to eat. C ya (08:20 PM) Ensign Software: should never have been that way (08:20 PM) Merkur_: cu, gn8 (08:20 PM) Ensign Software: y (08:21 PM) Buffy_04364: hi plevin (08:21 PM) plevin: hi buffy (08:21 PM) Ensign Software: no, just follow the suggestions to eliminate other applications (08:21 PM) Ensign Software: monitor CPU usage and then add them back one at a time (08:21 PM) Ensign Software: see if there is a repeatable point of when CPU problem return (08:21 PM) Ensign Software: returns (08:21 PM) Ensign Software: yes oct 4 available now (08:22 PM) plevin: ok, I'll try that too (08:22 PM) Ensign Software: k (08:22 PM) plevin: thanks (08:22 PM) Ensign Software: also, in your log of details, write down the time of day when you see a behavior you want to report (08:22 PM) Buffy_04364: oh oh howard error on starting ensign again (08:22 PM) Ensign Software: sometime time of day is a good clue (08:22 PM) plevin: ok (08:23 PM) plevin: thanks again (08:23 PM) Buffy_04364: oh well we will solve it Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (08:23 PM) Ensign Software: k (08:23 PM) Ensign Software: tell me the steps taken buffy (08:23 PM) Ensign Software: no, program version did not change (08:24 PM) Ensign Software: some configuration files might not have been saved (08:24 PM) Ensign Software: web site will not change anything (08:24 PM) Ensign Software: give me more details of problem (08:25 PM) Ensign Software: did you resave the quote sheet file when out of EW? (08:25 PM) Ensign Software: well, that was the purpose for the exit, (08:25 PM) Ensign Software: but when you close EW it resaves over the original (08:26 PM) Ensign Software: so the counsel was exit EW, install file, run EW (08:27 PM) Ensign Software: what is error (08:27 PM) Ensign Software: oki (08:27 PM) Ensign Software: use menu close all windows (08:27 PM) Ensign Software: wait (08:27 PM) Ensign Software: wait (08:28 PM) Ensign Software: need clues right here (08:28 PM) Ensign Software: ok (08:28 PM) Ensign Software: sorry, thought we could still manipulate applications (08:28 PM) Ensign Software: ok, reset or power down Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (08:29 PM) Ensign Software: scratching a hole in my head (08:29 PM) Ensign Software: ok, reinstall but I do not have much hope in that (08:30 PM) Ensign Software: worth a try (08:30 PM) Ensign Software: no, (08:30 PM) Ensign Software: quote sheet is standard and unchanged (08:30 PM) Ensign Software: you could send me the sheet too and I will try it (08:34 PM) Ensign Software: k, let me try it (08:34 PM) Ensign Software: i am breaking for food now too Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (08:42 PM) Buffy_04364: let me know when you come back - I have a quote sheet but hard to get just one line (08:43 PM) Buffy_04364: highlights both the row I click on and the next row up Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (09:07 PM) plevin: Howard are you still here? (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: he is coming back plevin (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: do you have problems (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: true (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: oh (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: oh (09:08 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (09:10 PM) plevin: say the problem again (09:10 PM) plevin: yes I do believe I have the update drivers (09:10 PM) hagen1: hey :)| (09:11 PM) Buffy_04364: did you get the new version? (09:11 PM) hagen1: I downloaded ~2 hours ago (09:12 PM) Buffy_04364: same place but highlighting both the cell I click on and one above it (09:12 PM) Buffy_04364: just got a phone call be back (09:12 PM) plevin: buffy? (09:12 PM) plevin: ok Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (09:22 PM) george_668: hello all Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (09:25 PM) Buffy_04364: bk (09:27 PM) plevin: is Howard back? (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: you can't hear me? (09:27 PM) plevin: no (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: now? (09:28 PM) plevin: try again (09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: no? (09:28 PM) plevin: I don't even see the mic icon next to your name (09:28 PM) Dá: brb (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: now? (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: could you hear me? (09:29 PM) plevin: no (09:30 PM) plevin: try one more time (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: can anyone hear me? (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: k Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: how about this time (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone hear me (09:31 PM) plevin: wait one sec (09:31 PM) plevin: i'm printing uses 100% cpu (09:31 PM) plevin: ok try now (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: did u hear? (09:32 PM) plevin: i still do not see a mic icon go on by your name, and no sound (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: your turn (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: this happens all the time with howard (09:32 PM) Mkt_Stud: Yes, hear you (09:32 PM) SteveGTS: Anyone having problems with current Ensign download? MyESPL draw tools are not working (09:33 PM) Buffy_04364: howard should be back (09:33 PM) SteveGTS: either is the delete tools button or bar check box (09:33 PM) Buffy_04364: please do talk (09:33 PM) Buffy_04364: L:OL (09:33 PM) Buffy_04364: I hear mkt stud (09:33 PM) Buffy_04364: I hear you (09:33 PM) Mkt_Stud: Your fine (09:33 PM) SteveGTS: I hear no one (09:34 PM) Buffy_04364: ever since they moved it and did the upgrade this happens (09:34 PM) Buffy_04364: need to exit steve (09:34 PM) Buffy_04364: howard should be back (09:35 PM) Buffy_04364: could you hear me now steve? (09:35 PM) SteveGTS: no (09:35 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (09:35 PM) Buffy_04364: I hear you (09:35 PM) SteveGTS: hmm (09:36 PM) SteveGTS: I just loaded zonelabs firewall - maybe that is the problem? (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: none of the espl steve? (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: must be on low (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: then can change after you get in (09:36 PM) SteveGTS: I hear now (09:36 PM) SteveGTS: on medium (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: he can't hear you plevin (09:38 PM) plevin: SteveGTS, in Advance Sound Control, turn on box 1, 3, 5 & 6. Then exit & re-enter paltalk. That should work with ZoneAlarm. (09:39 PM) SteveGTS: plevin - where do I find advanced sound controls? (09:39 PM) plevin: sorry, 1 sec (09:39 PM) Buffy_04364: palltalk window (09:39 PM) Buffy_04364: file (09:39 PM) SteveGTS: found it (09:39 PM) plevin: on your main paltalk window, click on Setup (near the top) (09:39 PM) Buffy_04364: setup (09:39 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok (09:40 PM) Buffy_04364: I have all but second one checked with zone alarm when I ran it (09:40 PM) plevin: buffy, for some reason, I can't get those droppings now Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (09:41 PM) plevin: I also found that if I click on the "Default Chart Scale" tool bar button then it repaints the chart (09:41 PM) plevin: no clue Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. (09:45 PM) Buffy_04364: yes I have it (09:46 PM) SteveGTS: does it work (09:47 PM) mike_2204: HOW WAS TODAY FOR YOU ALL (09:47 PM) mike_2204: HI (09:47 PM) Mkt_Stud: 60 points (09:47 PM) mike_2204: I TRADE SP EMINI (09:47 PM) mike_2204: WE DO PRETTY GOOD FULL TIME (09:48 PM) mike_2204: 60 GOOD THX (09:48 PM) Ensign Software: just returned, let me test (09:48 PM) Ensign Software: steve, see the problem. let me investigate and fix (09:48 PM) Ensign Software: give me a few moments (09:48 PM) Ensign Software: to work on it (09:50 PM) SteveGTS: 4C (09:51 PM) Ensign Software: steve, temporary fix is to double click on the horizontal draw tool panel (09:51 PM) Ensign Software: this is the same as unchecking the bar check box Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (09:51 PM) Ensign Software: then redisplay the draw tools panel and then the buttons work to show a pencil (09:51 PM) Ensign Software: let me see how to get it in the mode of not working again (09:52 PM) SteveGTS: that worked (09:52 PM) Ensign Software: ok, found I can get it in the mode by giving focus to paltalk (09:52 PM) Ensign Software: let me go fix. (09:52 PM) Ensign Software: I think I know where to fix the focus thing (09:52 PM) Ensign Software: 1 moment for a test Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. (10:05 PM) Ensign Software: sorry, this behavior of the espl small number button on the draw tools panel is quite a mystery. have not figured it out yet. this is going to take longer than I initially though it would (10:06 PM) Buffy_04364: mine is my quote sheet (10:06 PM) Buffy_04364: but says I have version b even though it isn't acting like it (10:06 PM) Buffy_04364: so now what would you like me to do (10:07 PM) Ensign Software: v B was fine and functional. (10:07 PM) Ensign Software: your quote sheet is gone I gather, (10:07 PM) Buffy_04364: no it won't let me select 1 row (10:07 PM) Ensign Software: did you have a back up of the quote page, by chance you can reload? (10:08 PM) Buffy_04364: of course not (10:08 PM) Ensign Software: so what is the problem, tell me again, 1st I have heard about row 1 (10:08 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is a new problem (10:09 PM) Buffy_04364: when I first had the problem it was highlighting the row I was clicking on plus the higher row (10:09 PM) Buffy_04364: I have reloaded the workspace a few times and now it is highlighting the row underneath also (10:09 PM) Ensign Software: ok, this is what we did that might affect what is happening (10:10 PM) Ensign Software: prior to day's version, we determined the row by using the selection property of the interior grid. (10:10 PM) Buffy_04364: k (10:10 PM) Ensign Software: this was fine, but it did not permit one to click on the 1st column where the symbol is because that did not set the selection property (10:10 PM) Buffy_04364: right (10:11 PM) Ensign Software: so, the change was to reverse engineer the row from the Y coordianate using the default row height (10:11 PM) Buffy_04364: well now it is selecting 4 rows (10:11 PM) Ensign Software: I suspect in your case you must have a different row height than I tested with (10:11 PM) Buffy_04364: because of the enlarged text thing again? Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (10:12 PM) Ensign Software: which column are you clicking in with column 1 being the symbol (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: I am clicking in last (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: I have symbol, net last (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: for the 3 columns showing (10:13 PM) Ensign Software: ok, and you are clicking on row 1 but more rows highlight than just one cell? (10:13 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (10:13 PM) Ensign Software: ok, let me switch to large font 125% and see if I get the same problem (10:13 PM) Buffy_04364: sometimes it is even selecting 5 rows (10:14 PM) Buffy_04364: almost like the shift key is down (10:14 PM) Buffy_04364: and no no cats are on the keyboard LOL (10:16 PM) Ensign Software: need to reboot to switch to large font, brb Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (10:24 PM) Ensign Software: hi buffy, (10:24 PM) Buffy_04364: hi (10:24 PM) Ensign Software: don't know if this is good or bad news, but I have switched to large 125% font for system, and the quote page is working just fine (10:24 PM) Buffy_04364: bad news (10:25 PM) Ensign Software: the highlight box goes to the quote page cell I click in and only that cell is highlighted (10:25 PM) Buffy_04364: I really messed the file up I guess with what I did earlier (10:25 PM) Buffy_04364: you are lucky (10:25 PM) Ensign Software: have you tried double click on the symbol itself? (10:25 PM) Ensign Software: that was the purpose of the quote page selection method change (10:25 PM) Ensign Software: so we could click on the symbol and open a chart too, not just click on a price on the symbol row (10:26 PM) Ensign Software: one more thing for me to look at. (10:26 PM) Ensign Software: have quote page with the focus (10:26 PM) Ensign Software: click menu windows | change font (10:26 PM) Buffy_04364: it puts up either or on the chart (10:27 PM) Buffy_04364: lost me on menu window (10:27 PM) Ensign Software: for your quote page, on the Font dialog, tell me your font name, style, and size (10:27 PM) Ensign Software: I want quote form to have the focus, then use menu Window | Set Window Font (10:28 PM) Ensign Software: on the font form, tell me font name, style and size (10:28 PM) Ensign Software: that is currently selected (10:28 PM) Buffy_04364: k (10:29 PM) Buffy_04364: call me stupid but I can't find the menu window (10:29 PM) Buffy_04364: you are talking about (10:29 PM) Buffy_04364: quote sheet is in focus (10:29 PM) Buffy_04364: oh I need to get those buttons back right? (10:29 PM) Ensign Software: yes (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: no (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: do not need quote form buttons (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: when quote sheet has focus, then use MENU Window | Set Window Font (10:30 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok (10:31 PM) Buffy_04364: where is menu (10:31 PM) Ensign Software: top of screen (10:31 PM) Ensign Software: File SetUp Quotes Window !!! Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (10:32 PM) Buffy_04364: got it and sorry to be so slow (10:32 PM) Buffy_04364: it is ms sans serif (10:32 PM) Buffy_04364: regular (10:32 PM) Buffy_04364: 8 (10:32 PM) Ensign Software: ok, same as I do (10:32 PM) Ensign Software: are you sure you are not just dragging the mouse across more than one row (10:33 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (10:33 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what it is acting like though (10:33 PM) Ensign Software: the form support multi row select by draggin across rows (10:33 PM) Buffy_04364: exactly (10:33 PM) Ensign Software: humm. baffled on that one (10:33 PM) Buffy_04364: out of 10 clicks (10:33 PM) Buffy_04364: 2 ones (10:33 PM) Ensign Software: anything else that would make us suspect mouse operation?? (10:34 PM) Buffy_04364: 6 2rows (10:34 PM) Buffy_04364: 1 4 row (10:34 PM) Ensign Software: let me try 10, 1 moment (10:35 PM) Buffy_04364: ok blank row (10:35 PM) Ensign Software: I see if I click near a row edge it selects both rows on either side of the boundary. if i click on the middle of the cell always selects just that cell (10:36 PM) Buffy_04364: usually is one (10:36 PM) Buffy_04364: middle of cell (10:36 PM) Ensign Software: is your form all blank rows (10:36 PM) Buffy_04364: thought I was really trying to do that (10:36 PM) Buffy_04364: no (10:36 PM) Ensign Software: k (10:36 PM) Buffy_04364: does have blank rows for weperator (10:37 PM) bustercat: hello (10:37 PM) Buffy_04364: looks like the blank row is usually one cell (10:38 PM) Ensign Software: ok, i see if i click near bottom of the page and cause it to scroll up one row, then all clicks do two rows even though I am careful to click in center of the cell (10:38 PM) Buffy_04364: this is like the elusive study window line (10:38 PM) Buffy_04364: that no one ever had a problem with LOL (10:39 PM) Ensign Software: elusive study window line we found was sensitive to the mouse movement fineness or courseness setting (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: yipee you have it (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: you are right I am in the middle of mine with top part hidden (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: was adding stocks (10:39 PM) Ensign Software: adjustable parm on the mouse setup (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: oh that was it (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: yes I have mine set rather fast I think (10:40 PM) Buffy_04364: it seems to be anything after the blank seperator row is 2 cells (10:40 PM) Ensign Software: fast means courser resolution, which makes it harder to get the hot zone on the window line for study window resizing, however that is a mute issue now (10:41 PM) Buffy_04364: true (10:41 PM) Buffy_04364: I also have track ball not regular mouse (10:41 PM) Ensign Software: ok, I have a note written about this. will revisit it tomorrow to see if I can improve on it, and if it is related to new way to select a row so the symbol can be clicked on. (10:42 PM) Ensign Software: here is what i am going to do (10:42 PM) Buffy_04364: k Paltalk: ========================================== Join Keith Hernandez and Joe Theismann on October 10, 2001, from 12-1 p.m. (EST) and watch Keith color away his gray hair for charity. Click Here ========================================== (10:42 PM) Ensign Software: I am breaking for 90 minutes to pay attention to a daughter (10:43 PM) Buffy_04364: good she will like that (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: than I will return for a few hours of work on the EPSL button/pencil problem steve reported, that is the most critical of the items reported with this version. (10:43 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: the rest will wait until tomorrow (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: so bye for now. (10:43 PM) Buffy_04364: ok sounds good (10:43 PM) Buffy_04364: night howard and thanks (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: if I figure out the ESPL buttons, I will post a version 4d and steve can see that and have it fixed for tomorrow (10:44 PM) Ensign Software: bye (10:44 PM) Buffy_04364: take care Paltalk: assign group all ratings GRA send_to_nobanner_subscribers false ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. 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