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(09:08 AM) elly_34: good morning
(09:09 AM) Buffy_04364: hi elly
(09:09 AM) elly_34: hi buffy 
(09:10 AM) dave_b_quik: gm
(09:10 AM) Buffy_04364: hi dave - thanks for folder
(09:10 AM) dave_b_quik: thanks for the reminder
(09:11 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
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(09:17 AM) Buffy_04364: sorry I haven't gotten to the reorganization of charts
(09:17 AM) dave_b_quik: :>(
(09:18 AM) Jessie Livermore: good morning all
(09:18 AM) dave_b_quik: gm 
(09:19 AM) beanman_1: gm all
(09:19 AM) jimbo_320: gm traders
(09:20 AM) Buffy_04364: morning guys
(09:21 AM) jimbo_320: posted ES chart
(09:23 AM) dave_b_quik: nice one, jimbo
(09:24 AM) dave_b_quik: great commentary
(09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: anyone know how long to boil water to make safe?
(09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: I just can't remember
(09:24 AM) elly_34: 10 min
(09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: daugher on phone as well monitor said to boil it
(09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks elly
(09:24 AM) dave_b_quik: i usually boil it 'til it's dry and the bottom of the pot melts
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(09:25 AM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(09:26 AM) elly_34: same here dave :)
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(09:30 AM) jimbo_320: looks like i might be leaving you guys for some time, i will be starting some consultancy work this week, developing software for satellite systems, i might be spying on you soon, and giving you eyes on bin laden :-) I will try to trade late pm into the close though if i am not to busy
(09:31 AM) Daniel X: good fortune and good luck JIMBO
(09:32 AM) Tom_B: be well Jimbo
(09:32 AM) dave_b_quik: Wow, hope you can come back soon, jimbo
(09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: I will miss you and your music Jimbo
(09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: me too
(09:33 AM) jimbo_320: i will be around for the last probably, just to catch the chop !
(09:33 AM) jimbo_320: last hour
(09:33 AM) Gorillatrader: good morning
(09:33 AM) tomsurf: morning GT
(09:33 AM) jimbo_320: it has been great fun chatting to you guys, u have great community here
(09:33 AM) Gorillatrader: Hi Tom
(09:34 AM) tomsurf: jimbo- sure wish you all the best!
(09:34 AM) Gorillatrader: Bonds trending well this morning
(09:35 AM) Daniel X: 1270 pivot
(09:36 AM) ppusa: don't forget december
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(09:37 AM) Daniel X: opps ur right pivot 1500!!!lol
(09:37 AM) Daniel X: are we open..gosh
(09:37 AM) Tom_B: 1500?
(09:37 AM) Daniel X: kidding
(09:38 AM) ppusa: 9 points higher
(09:38 AM) Gorillatrader: Dec picking up volume
(09:38 AM) ppusa: y
(09:40 AM) Daniel X: 9 point range...news on the horizon?
(09:40 AM) jimbo_320: is everyone trading dec now?
(09:40 AM) dave_b_quik: y
(09:42 AM) klonerdoug: y
(09:42 AM) jimbo_320: if i figurued out the nextrend symbol i probly would too..
(09:42 AM) dave_b_quik: :-(
(09:43 AM) sahla_2: what does anybody think the DJ is goin to do
(09:43 AM) Daniel X: 164 short off 9 min
(09:43 AM) Daniel X: 1264
(09:44 AM) Daniel X: out +4.5
(09:45 AM) rlee_2: nextrend dec emini  est1'cm   and naz is  nqt1'cm
(09:46 AM) jimbo_320: thanks rlee
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(09:46 AM) rlee_2: welcome
(09:47 AM) Tom_B: long 1261
(09:47 AM) Daniel X: off of?
(09:47 AM) Tom_B: magic 8 ball
(09:47 AM) Daniel X: lol
(09:48 AM) Daniel X: Fib?
(09:48 AM) Tom_B: 57 stop
(09:49 AM) jimbo_320: rlee, is there anyway of showing all the data from the U contract on the same chart?
(09:49 AM) Gorillatrader: Short NQ 1270
(09:50 AM) dave_b_quik: nice job, GT
(09:50 AM) Gorillatrader: out, Dave, used 9min entry
(09:51 AM) rlee_2: don't know that one ,  click  help and email client support usualy prompt
(09:51 AM) Buffy_04364: finally off phone with daughter
(09:52 AM) jimbo_320: dow breaks yesterdays low
(09:52 AM) Tom_B: long 1264
(09:54 AM) Gorillatrader: 1266 here
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(09:55 AM) ppusa: 1500 here
(09:55 AM) Daniel X: lol
(09:55 AM) Gorillatrader: lol, dec 2002 contract
(09:56 AM) Orprepus: investing fro the future
(09:56 AM) Tom_B: :)
(09:56 AM) Orprepus: fro = for
(09:56 AM) ppusa: is there one?
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(09:56 AM) Gorillatrader: the future is today, now
(09:56 AM) Orprepus: pp rollover was for Dec 2001 not 2002
(09:56 AM) Tom_B: target 127950 -80
(09:57 AM) ppusa: last night's low may hold but should get more of a test
(09:57 AM) Gorillatrader: testing hod
(09:57 AM) Tom_B: grrr
(09:58 AM) ppusa: waiting for a higher HOD and then maybe short
(09:58 AM) ppusa: Hour chart looks like it is trying to turn up
(09:59 AM) Ensign Software: hi buffy, is everything working OK for you??
(09:59 AM) Daniel X: chop chop?
(09:59 AM) ppusa: getting some PnF buy signals here
(09:59 AM) Daniel X: 2 B?
(09:59 AM) Buffy_04364: I posted a problem with sizing howard
(09:59 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks for asking
(10:00 AM) Buffy_04364: it looks like a band is there stoping chart from sizing right
(10:01 AM) Buffy_04364: couldn't find a way to delete templates as it seems to be hanging on to them
(10:01 AM) Buffy_04364: just a guess
(10:02 AM) Gorillatrader: Retro rules on 9/3min now UP +17 on NQZ
(10:02 AM) Tom_B: out 1275
(10:02 AM) Ensign Software: buffy, on the 75 tick chart try pressing CTRL-Z
(10:03 AM) Buffy_04364: didn't work
(10:03 AM) Buffy_04364: it is only tick charts 
(10:06 AM) Ensign Software: well, you could put the cursor in the gap, right mouse click, and use Delete | Delete Below and erase the data at the lower scale so the current data collecting can scale the chart
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(10:07 AM) Buffy_04364: already tried that
(10:07 AM) Buffy_04364: I don't think it is data
(10:07 AM) Buffy_04364: I think it is a color band
(10:07 AM) Buffy_04364: from somewhere
(10:07 AM) Buffy_04364: will try again
(10:07 AM) jimbo_320: out so it can go up now :-(
(10:08 AM) Buffy_04364: nope still does not work
(10:08 AM) Buffy_04364: 30T and 50T have same problem
(10:10 AM) Ensign Software: let me catch up using your December workspace
(10:10 AM) Buffy_04364: ok
(10:15 AM) Gorillatrader: good buying today
(10:15 AM) Buffy_04364: yes
(10:15 AM) Buffy_04364: made one trade but missed this last one
(10:16 AM) Tom_B: long 78..target 95
(10:16 AM) Daniel X: me too only took +3.5
(10:16 AM) jimbo_320: and it did go up
(10:16 AM) Gorillatrader: long 1266.50 9min
(10:16 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks again for the business reminder GT
(10:16 AM) Daniel X: good Tom
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(10:16 AM) Gorillatrader: welcome Buffy, had to prod myself too
(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: mcuh better today - ready to trade  :-)
(10:18 AM) elly_34: GT you are trading retro now?
(10:18 AM) Gorillatrader: modified retro on 9/3min..I've always traded some kind of multi-timeframe
(10:18 AM) elly_34: nice
(10:19 AM) Gorillatrader: up +25 so far
(10:19 AM) elly_34: excellent
(10:19 AM) Indycator: GT, trying to see your entry signal at 1266.50 on the 9m..thanks
(10:19 AM) elly_34: are u going to or have u posted your modification?
(10:19 AM) Gorillatrader: look at the Dec Bonds, excellent downtrend play
(10:20 AM) Gorillatrader: 09:51 bar high, Indy
(10:20 AM) Tom_B: 1320 possible 
(10:21 AM) Tom_B: fumes here
(10:21 AM) ppusa: nas has 6 days of lower highs and lows, today being the 6th
(10:21 AM) Gorillatrader: thx
(10:22 AM) Daniel X: 1292 piovot res1
(10:22 AM) Daniel X: pivot
(10:23 AM) ppusa: is it reasonable to expect there will be no further retest of today's low or are going to see a HOD? Yesterday i mentioned a HOD between 70 and 90
(10:23 AM) Daniel X: rsi in overbought
(10:23 AM) Gorillatrader: I have no expectations at all, playing one price bar at a time
(10:24 AM) Tom_B: out 89.5
(10:24 AM) Buffy_04364: ditto
(10:24 AM) Indycator: GT, you entered a buy stop based on the possibility of a successful test of previous 3m low, plus we had an outside bar?
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(10:25 AM) Gorillatrader: that's too much thinking and analysis, Indy
(10:25 AM) Daniel X: lol
(10:25 AM) Gorillatrader: simple Retro rule...buy stop above 9min bar high
(10:25 AM) Gorillatrader: Retro uses 15min
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(10:27 AM) Indycator: GT, okay, simple retro enty...thanks
(10:27 AM) Gorillatrader: Its a basic premise in Multi-Timeframe Methodology
(10:28 AM) Daniel X: 1292 pivot res 1 very strong
(10:28 AM) Gorillatrader: Take entries on higher TF, exits on lower TFs
(10:28 AM) Tom_B: GT, u animal u...:)
(10:28 AM) Gorillatrader: Use Price Bars, Mov Ave, or any other indicators you like
(10:29 AM) Gorillatrader: lol, me from Jungle..not concrete cities where all the eurodites prevail
(10:30 AM) Daniel X: ah bon
(10:32 AM) Gorillatrader: LX, Long Exit at 1287.50 for a +21..., previous Short was a +5
(10:34 AM) jimbo_320: means bust out all the more powerful, 1050 is also overhead on es
(10:34 AM) Gorillatrader: these 2 trades based on the Retro Rules on a 9/3min charts as Dave wrote them on dachart
(10:33 AM) Gorillatrader: mechanical entry/exits and stop placements
(10:33 AM) Buffy_04364: Trading has been temporarily halted for COMEX  due to a bomb threat. This includes metals and energies
(10:33 AM) elly_34: are youusing the mechanical stops also?
(10:33 AM) Buffy_04364: from best
(10:34 AM) Gorillatrader: yes, Elly....Retro Rules except no pattern recognition, no "2B" nor "1-2-3"
(10:34 AM) Tom_B: bk out only ?
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(10:34 AM) elly_34: ty
(10:34 AM) Ensign Software: daveBquick, my 1 min and 3 min NQ refreshes from eSignal look correct and clean.  I do not have any of the sequence problem you showed me.   Continue to be baffled.
(10:35 AM) wayne_53: How long do you carry a 2B.  On 3 min ES you had a 2nd poke bar about 7 bars ago.  Does it still qualify as a 2B for a short if the low is taken out of that 2B poke bar
(10:35 AM) Gorillatrader: me, Wayne?..ask Dave. don't use it as it requires a judgement call and thinking
(10:36 AM) wayne_53: I'm out right now possibly looking to go short
(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: no problem here with it either Howard
(10:37 AM) elly_34: what is the total today GT?
(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: I bbelieve so wayne but sure Dave will answer 
(10:37 AM) wayne_53: How about it DAve
(10:37 AM) Gorillatrader: Elly, from my perspective on 9/3min, +21, +5, so a +26 NQ points
(10:39 AM) elly_34: nice, are u in one now?
(10:39 AM) coaster_9: I am showing only a fraction of the volume we had yesterday.  Is this correct?
(10:40 AM) Gorillatrader: use DEC
(10:40 AM) coaster_9: thx
(10:40 AM) Ensign Software: buffy, what do you think of this idea for a feature.  On the chart properties, have a button that changes color settings to a standard that is good for posting to the dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart site for printing, and then use the Reset Defaults  or another button to restore the original colors??
(10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: great idea
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: it would solve reluctance to post having to change colors all the time
(10:41 AM) Gorillatrader: great Howard, white background great for printing from dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart
(10:41 AM) Ensign Software: if such a color change feature were present, would you use it to swap colors for posting?
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: yes I would Howard
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: a lot
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: would have to include pyra and lines
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: and indicators?
(10:41 AM) dave_b_quik: "Printer friendly colors" toggle that reverts to previous settings after?
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: sounds like a lot
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: hmmm
(10:42 AM) Buffy_04364: after printing
(10:42 AM) Buffy_04364: or posting
(10:42 AM) Buffy_04364: could you do that Howard?
(10:42 AM) Buffy_04364: but then most probably not with snagit
(10:42 AM) Ensign Software: ok, let me think on it and work on it.  Don't know yet how extensive to make the color change.  some are obvious like background, font, and bars.   not sure about draw tools and study colors, however.
(10:43 AM) rich012: I am trying to get the Dec eminis on my charts.  When I switch over to Dec, the correct and updated chart appears, but the chart doesn't update.  Anyone know why?
(10:43 AM) Ensign Software: idea is you click button to change color sets, then use CTRL-J or snagit to post, then click button to restore originals
(10:43 AM) Buffy_04364: that works howard
(10:43 AM) Gorillatrader: nice Howard
(10:43 AM) elly_34: howard, can i get ohlc on any bar i point to somehow?
(10:43 AM) Buffy_04364: no rich I don't know why you are not updating
(10:43 AM) Buffy_04364: show bar data
(10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: under properties for the chart
(10:44 AM) Ensign Software: elly, press CTRL-B  to toggle into view the bar data panel
(10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: the easy way LOL
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(10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: what was ctrl Z suppose to do that you had me try Howard
(10:45 AM) Ensign Software: rich, close Dec chart, and reopen it from the quote page using the big T button.   Sure it will be live then.
(10:45 AM) Ensign Software: auto adjust for split, as if the two sets were off by a factor of 10 or 100
(10:45 AM) rich012: ok Howard, will try that
(10:46 AM) Ensign Software: if dec chart is in a layout, then resave the layout after the chart is up and working
(10:46 AM) Buffy_04364: tks howard
(10:46 AM) beanman_1: Howard, in my ticki overlay in study window, I have a couple of erroneous bars that I cannot get rid of , any suggestions?
(10:46 AM) beanman_1: I'm sorry, I meant prem overlay
(10:47 AM) Ensign Software: editing of ticki would have to be done when ticki is a chart by itself.   after edit, then redisplay the chart which has ticki as an overlay.   same answer for prem
(10:48 AM) Ensign Software: beanman, did you get new version this morning.  I fixed the item you reported late last night with the beta
(10:48 AM) beanman_1: yes, installed this am,,, working fine
(10:48 AM) Ensign Software: ok, I am off to implement color swap idea in the beta
(10:48 AM) Ensign Software: bye
(10:48 AM) Ensign Software: see you later
(10:48 AM) Buffy_04364: bye Howard
(10:48 AM) Buffy_04364: tks
(10:49 AM) jimbo_320: upwedge on es and 2b on nqoos?
(10:50 AM) Gorillatrader: Bonds dropped 1 full point this morning
(10:51 AM) jimbo_320: nqoos is at yesterdays open
(10:52 AM) elly_34: ctrl b not working on nq
(10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: working fine here elly
(10:53 AM) elly_34: i only get date
(10:53 AM) elly_34: weird
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(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: take the chart out of focus and then bring it back in focus
(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: try that
(10:54 AM) elly_34: ty worked
(10:54 AM) Buffy_04364: great
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(10:55 AM) rich012: I can't get the ES M1 symbol to be accepted by a quote sheet
(10:55 AM) rich012: NQ Z1 works fine
(10:55 AM) Gorillatrader: M is June 2002
(10:55 AM) rich012: sorry, I meant ES Z1
(10:55 AM) Gorillatrader: ES Z1
(11:02 AM) Tom_B: GT, pls PM me
(11:04 AM) Gorillatrader: did
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(11:08 AM) Tom_B: 65 66 potential target 
(11:10 AM) Daniel X: grrtarget was 83
(11:10 AM) Daniel X: entry
(11:10 AM) Tom_B: grr ?
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(11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: tom myself looking for pause at 72
(11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: nq
(11:17 AM) Daniel X: Mike shelf?
(11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: yes
(11:19 AM) Daniel X: thnx
(11:20 AM) Daniel X: don't like the open close of those 5 min bars being the same
(11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: COMEX is reopening at 10:10 CST  - from best
(11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: shows indecision for sure
(11:21 AM) Daniel X: or deciding to reel us in!!
(11:21 AM) rich012: Buffy, do you have ES Z1 on a quote sheet?  I can't get ES Z1 to be accepted on a quote sheet.
(11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: yes I did last night
(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: got up to error message
(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: and workspace lost
(11:22 AM) rich012: NQ Z1 works fine, but not ES.
(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: can you get a chart?
(11:23 AM) rich012: I had a chart of Sept contracts.  When I change them to Dec, the ES comes up but won't update. 
(11:23 AM) rich012: The NQ will update though.
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(11:23 AM) Buffy_04364: try switiching TF on it ending up with what you want - is it a tick chart or min?
(11:24 AM) rich012: I know I am receiving updates from Ensign becaue I can use their software and see the price changing
(11:24 AM) rich012: min charts
(11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: you mean esignal right?
(11:24 AM) rich012: sorry, right
(11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: ok try the tf switch
(11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: or close and reopen chart
(11:24 AM) rich012: ok
(11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: or take out of focus and bring back into focus
(11:25 AM) Buffy_04364: one of those should work
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(11:27 AM) rich012: out of focus?
(11:27 AM) Buffy_04364: not make it the primary chart
(11:27 AM) Buffy_04364: click on another chart then click back on es chart
(11:28 AM) Buffy_04364: short again here - others must be too
(11:28 AM) Daniel X: 1270 pivot 
(11:28 AM) Buffy_04364: tks daniel
(11:29 AM) Buffy_04364: 1270.57 for pyra
(11:29 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(11:29 AM) Buffy_04364: how u doing rich?
(11:30 AM) Gorillatrader: SE 1280.50, 9min with 11:03 bar low break
(11:30 AM) Daniel X: aarrrggg hit buy button buy mistake came out + 1...not getting it together today yet.
(11:31 AM) Buffy_04364: tks gt
(11:31 AM) Buffy_04364: sorry daniel
(11:31 AM) Buffy_04364: I hate those days
(11:32 AM) Daniel X: sigh
(11:32 AM) rich012: shoot, still doesn't work.
(11:32 AM) rich012: Must be something else I need to change with data manager etc...
(11:32 AM) jimbo_320: posted nqoos chart
(11:32 AM) rich012: Especially with the symbol not being accepted on a quote page
(11:33 AM) ppusa: Dave your 2B 5 min break is looking good today at HOD
(11:33 AM) Buffy_04364: howard isn't on to ask either
(11:34 AM) rich012: yes, I see that the paltalk room is not open
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: just checked
(11:35 AM) dave_b_quik: rich, what's the intraday server set to in SETUP/MANAGER
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: no it isn't
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: should of known no on from ensign listed on pals
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(11:35 AM) rich012: buffy, I have adapted your method to a bit longer TF for me.  Backtesting looks very good.  
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: great rich
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: what tf
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: that is how you do it - find something that works for you
(11:37 AM) rich012: I am using the 27m for the trend and the 9m for trading.  The method I use is a bit different, but you caused a light bulb to go off im my head.  Thanks for that.  Couple of bulbs actually!
(11:37 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(11:38 AM) ppusa: one sandwich short of a picnic
(11:38 AM) rich012: dave, intraday server set at 30+ days
(11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: have to drop in some evening and tell me all about it
(11:39 AM) ppusa: don't have all your dogs barking?
(11:40 AM) dave_b_quik: rich, what's the version date of yr ensign?
(11:40 AM) rich012: ok.  I had a decent method in  the past using the 30m for trend, but wasn't sure how to trade it.  Our discussion helped regarding TL's and EMA's.
(11:40 AM) rich012: 8/21
(11:42 AM) Buffy_04364: they are both so important
(11:42 AM) Buffy_04364: and simple
(11:42 AM) Daniel X: RSI in oversold
(11:42 AM) rich012: buffy, agree
(11:43 AM) rich012: But the real key is keeping the trend in mind.
(11:43 AM) rich012: And then trading in a smaller timeframe
(11:44 AM) Buffy_04364: true rich - trend is your friend
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(11:50 AM) Buffy_04364: just posted 4m pyra
(11:50 AM) Gorillatrader: SOX keeps dropping
(11:51 AM) Buffy_04364: nice charts jimbo and beanman
(11:52 AM) Gorillatrader: 9min chart still Short from 1280.50
(11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: nice GT
(11:52 AM) rich012: Buffy, what are you looking for here to get you to cover?
(11:53 AM) rich012: gt, :-)    Sound like my 9 min chart
(11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: pyra line coming up for one
(11:53 AM) Tom_B: 64 -65 target prev posted
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(11:53 AM) Gorillatrader: great Rich, simple, mechanical approach...no brains needed
(11:54 AM) Buffy_04364: 1263.47 is pyra
(11:54 AM) rich012: yep, I am at my best when brainless
(11:54 AM) Buffy_04364: a reversal pattern also
(11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: following it down like retro but on smaller TF
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(11:59 AM) rich012: large # of bids on nq at 65.00
(12:00 PM) rich012: see if they stay there
(12:00 PM) rich012: LOL, guess not
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(12:09 PM) Buffy_04364: stopped out while getting a bagel
(12:12 PM) rich012: nice trade buffy
(12:12 PM) Buffy_04364: tks
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(12:25 PM) jimbo_320: anybody home?
(12:25 PM) spbear2: I'm here...you want a cup of sugar?
(12:26 PM) Buffy_04364: of course we are jimbo
(12:26 PM) Buffy_04364: lol spbear
(12:27 PM) Orprepus: sugar take two and add a coffe contract - hold the oj 
(12:27 PM) Buffy_04364: lol
(12:27 PM) Buffy_04364: wish Howard would com back
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(12:28 PM) Buffy_04364: short again
(12:31 PM) Buffy_04364: stop tight because of potential test of last swing low
(12:31 PM) jimbo_320: 1044 is the es15ema20
(12:31 PM) jimbo_320: my last shhort did not have much followthrough
(12:33 PM) Buffy_04364: risk now only .5 so ok with it
(12:34 PM) wayne_53: how tight of a stop are you using Buffy
(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: 1266. now
(12:34 PM) jimbo_320: are companys still allowed buyback today?
(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: yes they are
(12:35 PM) Buffy_04364: at least until through tomorrow last I heard
(12:35 PM) Buffy_04364: for the rules
(12:35 PM) Buffy_04364: being relaxed
(12:35 PM) Buffy_04364: looks like successful test of low - hmmm --- so far anyway
(12:37 PM) jimbo_320: posted nqoos chart
(12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: tks jimbo
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(12:38 PM) Buffy_04364: out -.5
(12:39 PM) Buffy_04364: lol no +.5
(12:39 PM) Buffy_04364: mind turned it around for some reason
(12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: gee daniel - you got it together yet?  Looks like I am still missing something  :-)
(12:40 PM) Daniel X: lol 
(12:41 PM) jimbo_320: think this thing is too oversold to break further
(12:41 PM) Orprepus: 2M BB really tightening
(12:41 PM) Daniel X: brb
(12:42 PM) ppusa: been napping -  where's my $ Dan?
(12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: winding up for something
(12:43 PM) Orprepus: historicallly the big down moves have come when the market is very oversold - the acceleration factor
(12:46 PM) Buffy_04364: long at 1268.50
(12:46 PM) Daniel X: RSI in buy 
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(12:49 PM) dave_b_quik: sound problem, kber
(12:49 PM) kber: Thanks
(12:49 PM) dave_b_quik: were you talking?
(12:49 PM) kber: no, but my sound is bad
(12:50 PM) dave_b_quik: just heard static
(12:50 PM) kber: voices veeeeerrrrrrry slowwww
(12:50 PM) kber: yesterday, today just static
(12:50 PM) Buffy_04364: stop at +1
(12:50 PM) dave_b_quik: oh, well, we mostly type anyway
(12:50 PM) Daniel X: yes volume dropping off again
(12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: I had lots of echo - do you have the new version or old one/
(12:51 PM) Daniel X: not alot of omph
(12:51 PM) Ensign Software: Just posted Ensign-44 and -45 charts showing toggle between original and JPG friendly color swap
(12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: keeping it tight  +2 now
(12:51 PM) jimbo_320: retroes - long at  46.25
(12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: that works
(12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: howard
(12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: no look at my pyra chart
(12:52 PM) Daniel X: vol increasing 
(12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: how did the -22 line get in it from ticki?
(12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: I opened that from the chart button
(12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: those colors work well for me how about you GT
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(12:55 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, I need to take with a grain of salt any thing like the ticki grid line because when you had workspace with minimized charts the problem was as soon as the chart became minimized in our sequence, all that followed as studies and objects was put on other charts because the minimized chart was no longer the Active window.   That was what I fixed last night in the beta. 
(12:55 PM) Ensign Software: You might just be seeing where the objects ended up, and all I can suggest is that when seen you erase them.
(12:55 PM) Buffy_04364: ok np
(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: sure ended up in funny places :-)
(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: GT - would like your input on the colors for printing
(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: tks howard
(12:56 PM) Ensign Software: agree, pp went to 15-min ES, which was obvious last night
(12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: ok howard so once fixed in the new beta should be alright then
(12:57 PM) Ensign Software: yes, should be solid now for you.
(12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: it is still fixing what the last beta couldn't handle right?
(12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: ok
(12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: I understand
(12:57 PM) Ensign Software: that is my opinion
(12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: ok we will see together
(12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(12:58 PM) Ensign Software: you are still cleaning up from original problem of a minimized chart in the workspace
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(12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: tks and understandit now
(12:58 PM) JohnA_83402: Howard - is your website UP this morning?
(12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: oh should an espl move by checking where I want it in properties?
(12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: asi didn't
(12:58 PM) Ensign Software: new beta with the color swap will be posted shortly
(12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: had to move other stuff to its window
(12:59 PM) Ensign Software: I wonder if it is John, because I also cannot go to my own site
(12:59 PM) Buffy_04364: don't thhink it is
(12:59 PM) Buffy_04364: I can't go so far either
(12:59 PM) Buffy_04364: yes just came up
(12:59 PM) Buffy_04364: took a while though
(12:59 PM) Ensign Software: ASI probably has code to assign its window 
(01:00 PM) Ensign Software: here is how color swap was implemented.
(01:00 PM) Buffy_04364: ok same as what is on your website
(01:00 PM) Buffy_04364: ok all ears
(01:00 PM) Buffy_04364: eys LOL
(01:01 PM) Ensign Software: when you view a chart, press CTRL-K to toggle Kolors to the JPG friendly color set.  CTRL-K will toggle back to originals.   While in friendly color set press CTRL-J to upload JPG file or use Snag-it.
(01:01 PM) Ensign Software: So, it is quick and easy to toggle, upload, and restore
(01:01 PM) Ensign Software: I would do  CTRL-K, CTRL-J, CTRL-K  and that's it.
(01:01 PM) Ensign Software: sound OK to you Buffy?
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: so for me it would be ctrl K
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: use snag it
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: then ctrl k
(01:02 PM) Ensign Software: exactly
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: yes sounds easy enough
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: very easy
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: GT looking at examples now
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks
(01:03 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks for making it so easy howard
(01:03 PM) Buffy_04364: appreciate it
(01:03 PM) Ensign Software: of course, you can always upload using your original colors and not do the color swaps
(01:03 PM) Buffy_04364: true and tks for that still being there
(01:03 PM) Ensign Software: but I know some want printer friendly white background on the examples.
(01:03 PM) Buffy_04364: will have to see what it does to pyra and lines
(01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: they sure do howard
(01:04 PM) ppusa: anyone see that spike on sept nq?
(01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: GT have you seen them yet?
(01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: any thoughts?
(01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: what spike what tf ppusa
(01:05 PM) ppusa: 30 point drop
(01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: oh only looking at dec now
(01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: missed tat
(01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: that
(01:05 PM) ppusa: something happened...
(01:06 PM) rambler_12: heard it on market sound
(01:06 PM) ppusa: probably like the time I got killed a year ago
(01:06 PM) rambler_12: yep
(01:07 PM) gianfranco_11: come va
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(01:08 PM) rich012: buffy, is Howard still on-line?  Looks like I missed him here.
(01:09 PM) Buffy_04364: he has gone to do an upload
(01:09 PM) Buffy_04364: should be back shortly to tell us it is ready
(01:09 PM) Buffy_04364: don't see him on line
(01:10 PM) rich012: ok, tx
(01:12 PM) Tom_B: any news ?
(01:12 PM) Buffy_04364: just posted 5m with pooke bar
(01:12 PM) Buffy_04364: no tv or anything on here tom
(01:12 PM) Tom_B: tx
(01:14 PM) Buffy_04364: long at 70.50
(01:15 PM) ppusa: buffy you just bot what i sold
(01:15 PM) ppusa: i saw that spike and slammed an order in
(01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: you trading dec?
(01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: stop +3 so np here  LOL
(01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: we can both do well
(01:15 PM) ppusa: yes didn't even look, just saw the drop and threw an order
(01:16 PM) ppusa: to buy
(01:16 PM) ppusa: december hadn't followed so i got out
(01:16 PM) ppusa: 70.5
(01:16 PM) ppusa: bot at 70
(01:16 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok
(01:17 PM) jimbo_320: out 1/2 for +4.5 es
(01:17 PM) Buffy_04364: nice jimbo
(01:17 PM) jimbo_320: lets see if we can take out 50 !
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(01:19 PM) wayne_53: Jimbo.....What price did you get fille at on ES
(01:19 PM) jimbo_320: lots of tfs had that last buy
(01:20 PM) jimbo_320: wayne 45 1/2
(01:21 PM) wayne_53: ok
(01:21 PM) jimbo_320: had a sell at 50
(01:21 PM) Daniel X: DOW + 83
(01:22 PM) Daniel X: hod
(01:22 PM) jimbo_320: dow takes 9000
(01:22 PM) wayne_53: boy jimbo you must have been in that one for a while
(01:22 PM) jimbo_320: still in it
(01:23 PM) wayne_53: go go go go
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(01:23 PM) jimbo_320: es hod
(01:26 PM) Daniel X: RSI entering overbought
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(01:33 PM) Daniel X: //
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(01:33 PM) wayne_53: Daniel.... are you using rsi of 14 or some other period
(01:33 PM) Buffy_04364: yep gae back 2
(01:33 PM) Daniel X: 9
(01:33 PM) Buffy_04364: :-(
(01:33 PM) Daniel X: seems to work good today
(01:34 PM) Daniel X: for scalps 
(01:34 PM) wayne_53: thnx
(01:34 PM) Daniel X: np
(01:37 PM) Daniel X: that was on huge vol
(01:37 PM) Daniel X: sorry must have been one huge order
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(01:42 PM) jimbo_320: big bounce day, down 700 and up 85 :-)
(01:42 PM) Daniel X: volume near lowest of the day
(01:44 PM) Buffy_04364: time line in pyra
(01:45 PM) Daniel X: 72.50 or 81 take ur choice
(01:45 PM) Daniel X: or 80
(01:46 PM) Daniel X: 72.50 it is
(01:46 PM) jimbo_320: rally started too early
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(01:48 PM) Gorillatrader: go with the trend
(01:49 PM) Daniel X: lol which is ?
(01:49 PM) Daniel X: lol
(01:49 PM) Gorillatrader: hehe
(01:49 PM) Buffy_04364: lol
(01:50 PM) Daniel X: what happened?
(01:50 PM) Daniel X: everthing froze
(01:50 PM) Gorillatrader: We waiting for Feds, Calvary and Patriots to show up and lift this market.  Another Bay of Pigs...abandoned at the beachfront
(01:51 PM) Orprepus: anyone else having datafeed issues - really slow or are the pits that slow?
(01:52 PM) Buffy_04364: seems ok here but nothing to compare it to either
(01:52 PM) Daniel X: must be slow pits
(01:52 PM) Tom_B: slow
(01:52 PM) Tom_B: seems to stop sometimes..
(01:52 PM) Daniel X: yes
(01:53 PM) Daniel X: locals watching the majors
(01:53 PM) jimbo_320: out es +1.5
(01:53 PM) jimbo_320: short
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(01:54 PM) Daniel X: 63 has to go for this to continue down Retro style
(01:55 PM) Daniel X: RSI coming down to flirt with 70
(01:56 PM) Daniel X: pullback buy zone? or ........