Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni.  Today's charts at www.DaCharts.comWARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk.tang: trading break out would it be a good method?tang: break out the gapppusa: dan hang onDaniel X: kBuffy_04364: will be short when TL on flag is brokenDaniel X: price Buffy?Daniel X: gap filledtang: yesBuffy_04364: about 1350Daniel X: kBuffy_04364: moves up as tl goes upDaniel X: kklonerdoug: not much of a fill so farBuffy_04364: shortklonerdoug: shortklonerdoug: stopped very tightklonerdoug: flat(09:42 AM) klonerdoug: good one buffy cover target?(09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: using uniform channels to manage trade(09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: out now(09:43 AM) Buffy_04364: looking for reentry(09:43 AM) Buffy_04364: +10(09:43 AM) tang: good buffy(09:43 AM) klonerdoug: k good(09:43 AM) dave_b_quick: good job buffy(09:43 AM) klonerdoug: i think u have to cover or take some cash at least(09:43 AM) Daniel X: tried for more took B?E(09:43 AM) ppusa: PnF either way here(09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: posted chart(09:44 AM) ppusa: would like to see a slam then up to new HOD(09:44 AM) klonerdoug: +7 on size(09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: another flag?(09:45 AM) ppusa: careful here on short side held low(09:45 AM) Buffy_04364: flat now(09:46 AM) Daniel X: long against trend hmmm(09:46 AM) klonerdoug: like i said right off open i just didn't trust long today ... from here i don't have feel so sitting back (09:46 AM) tang: buffy what time frame are u look with the flag(09:46 AM) Daniel X: judgement call anyone?(09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: BTW - the indicator on the bottom of the 75T is momentum 5/3 of the 20EMA(09:46 AM) dave_b_quick: that bottom was a 2B on the 1m, 2m NQ(09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: 75T as posted minute charts don't see it as well(09:46 AM) Daniel X: thnx(09:47 AM) ppusa: i bot(09:47 AM) ppusa: tight stop(09:47 AM) Buffy_04364: hi Dave(09:47 AM) dave_b_quick: morning(09:47 AM) ppusa: out(09:48 AM) Daniel X: Dow - 146 careful(09:48 AM) ppusa: looking for minimum 65 upside(09:48 AM) Daniel X: 20 rma res(09:48 AM) Daniel X: 68(09:48 AM) Buffy_04364: retro long(09:48 AM) tang: ok(09:48 AM) Daniel X: from 60.50(09:48 AM) klonerdoug: had 59 as b/o .... watched it go(09:48 AM) ppusa: 65 hit(09:49 AM) Daniel X: 68 hit(09:49 AM) Buffy_04364: want a diabolical thought? - Greenie does something here(09:49 AM) Daniel X: ouch nooo(09:49 AM) ppusa: ovebot(09:49 AM) ppusa: still think more up(09:49 AM) Daniel X: not fast enuff for the 90.50(09:49 AM) Buffy_04364: just a thought Daniel  LOL(09:49 AM) Daniel X: lol(09:49 AM) Daniel X: he hands are tied(09:50 AM) Daniel X: his(09:50 AM) Buffy_04364: why do you say that(09:50 AM) Daniel X: wow(09:50 AM) klonerdoug: 110 bo on es(09:50 AM) klonerdoug: 110(09:50 AM) klonerdoug: 1100 sorry(09:50 AM) Daniel X: cannot cut in the the $(09:50 AM) Buffy_04364: nice W bottom in retrospec(09:51 AM) klonerdoug: if i see some failure at 1100 i like 1100 long a bit later(09:52 AM) Daniel X: 1383.66 actual pivot(09:52 AM) Daniel X: r we close on that 1 Buffy!(09:52 AM) Buffy_04364: 1386(09:52 AM) Orprepus: morning all(09:52 AM) ppusa: 15 point PnF due for down(09:52 AM) Buffy_04364: hi orprepus(09:52 AM) Daniel X: Orp hi!(09:53 AM) Buffy_04364: time line coming up here(09:53 AM) Daniel X: 83(09:53 AM) ppusa: can nq take out yester high of 1431?(09:53 AM) Buffy_04364: wonder what caused this?(09:53 AM) Daniel X: that wd b smtin(09:54 AM) klonerdoug: 1100 filled too quick for me to take it longPaltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.(09:54 AM) klonerdoug: r sp comments off topic here?(09:54 AM) Buffy_04364: no go right ahead(09:54 AM) Daniel X: this will happen for awhile imo(09:54 AM) Buffy_04364: many trade them(09:54 AM) Daniel X: everyday (09:55 AM) Daniel X: characteristic of market extermes(09:55 AM) Daniel X: that's for the newbies(09:56 AM) ppusa: buffy this is exactly what happened yesterday(09:56 AM) Daniel X: PPUSA  1373 today instead of 93?(09:57 AM) ppusa: i think this market may surprise everyone today to up(09:57 AM) ppusa: pullback here then up...but i have to loook at charts i have been trading and have to stop and look them over now(09:59 AM) ppusa: so far exactly as i predicted yesterday(09:59 AM) klonerdoug: ok i have some errands, plus i don't what to get stupid, we had open read high % today(09:59 AM) Daniel X: ok (09:59 AM) klonerdoug: be bak at 1pm(10:00 AM) Daniel X: k(10:00 AM) Buffy_04364: k(10:00 AM) Buffy_04364: and yes the market did do this yesterday(10:00 AM) ppusa: 75 point PnF due for refersal(10:01 AM) Daniel X: wow what a way to reflect the emp #LOL(10:02 AM) ppusa: i don't want to get to bullish but the potential is here to have big up.(10:02 AM) Daniel X: ditto(10:02 AM) Daniel X: 1383 pivot(10:02 AM) Daniel X: hit(10:02 AM) tang: yes(10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: almost hit the 1386 too :-)(10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: hmmm retro doing well today(10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)(10:03 AM) tang: u still long buffy(10:03 AM) Daniel X: i know damn(10:03 AM) ppusa: the short term oversold is outof the PnF's and now dealing with longer term PnF's...buy signals over 1400(10:03 AM) Daniel X: i was dragging my feet(10:03 AM) Buffy_04364: me too daniel(10:03 AM) Buffy_04364: watching(10:03 AM) Daniel X: 1410 pivot res1(10:03 AM) tang: not bad with the first 10 pt(10:03 AM) Buffy_04364: gave back .5 trying another short(10:04 AM) Daniel X: all EMAS cut like butta baby(10:04 AM) tang: 24 pt gain from 60(10:04 AM) Daniel X: good (10:04 AM) ppusa: just don't lose soght of the big picture which is nq took out 4/4 low. had follow through this morning and now up(10:04 AM) Daniel X: tang hold on(10:04 AM) beanman_1: buffy, just posted updated pyra ES chart(10:04 AM) Buffy_04364: tks ppusa(10:04 AM) tang: no watching, dan(10:04 AM) Buffy_04364: tks beanman!(10:05 AM) tang: i miss while talking (10:05 AM) Daniel X: paper trade?(10:05 AM) Daniel X: lol you too!!!(10:05 AM) Daniel X: lol(10:05 AM) tang:  yes, prepare for real time now(10:06 AM) ppusa: nq at down TL ...will it go through?(10:06 AM) tang: i wonder do i have a gut to hold the long(10:06 AM) Daniel X: +30 retro damn pound pound pound(10:07 AM) ppusa: overbot here(10:07 AM) ppusa: but...(10:07 AM) tang: on 5 min?(10:08 AM) ppusa: nq goes higher look out(10:08 AM) Daniel X: aaarrrrgggg this is nuts!!!!!(10:09 AM) Daniel X: Dow -55(10:09 AM) ppusa: nq 1393   nq 1393  nq 1393   nq 1393  nq 1393   nq 1393(10:09 AM) Daniel X: lo(10:09 AM) Daniel X: took B/E oh well(10:10 AM) Daniel X: Meow meow(10:10 AM) tang: testing regresstion channel on 15 min(10:10 AM) wayne_53:  Anyone having data trouble(10:10 AM) wayne_53: mine is stopped(10:10 AM) ppusa: barring an outside up day ...how about a retest?(10:11 AM) Daniel X: wayne ...u speak to PFG?(10:11 AM) wayne_53: about what(10:11 AM) wayne_53: data back now(10:11 AM) Daniel X: you wanted their phone # no?(10:12 AM) Daniel X: for an account(10:13 AM) tang: 2b on 5 min(10:15 AM) dave_b_quick: ya(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: what is nq trading at data stopped(10:17 AM) wayne_53: I'm already there.   You must have me confused.  Got private mail from you this morn, but couldn't reply(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: ok now(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: these uniform channels are working well along with other stuff(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: anyone here?(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: that was scarey but got another 5.5 out of it(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: oh ok(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: tks(10:17 AM) Buffy_04364: didn't take it out tang so 123(10:18 AM) Buffy_04364: I think(10:18 AM) Buffy_04364: or does retro call those 2b anyway Dave?(10:18 AM) Daniel X: "scary" what is this scary you speak of..is this a human emotion(10:18 AM) Buffy_04364: yes when price frozen and in a trade it is scarey LOL(10:19 AM) dave_b_quick: i think tang was looking at the NQ5m test of the 9:55 hi, poke bar just violated(10:20 AM) tang: yes(10:20 AM) Buffy_04364: oh I was looking at swing high yest aft(10:20 AM) Buffy_04364: sorry(10:20 AM) dave_b_quick: OK, i see what you mean(10:20 AM) tang: ssorry buffy, did n't see your question(10:21 AM) Buffy_04364: np(10:21 AM) Buffy_04364: tagged the bottom of square in pyra(10:22 AM) Buffy_04364: can enough see tick charts to bother posting the 75T with uniform channel?(10:22 AM) Wolfguard 1: i would like to see your uniform channel if you can Buffy(10:23 AM) dave_b_quick: y(10:23 AM) tang: llook like key reversal on 5 min at swing high(10:24 AM) Buffy_04364: ok on its way(10:24 AM) Buffy_04364: notice how the price swings to one side when out of chopPaltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain?Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year!Click HELP on your Pal List then selectBannerless PalTalk to subscribe now!(10:24 AM) Daniel X: 5 min EMAs moving into missionary(10:25 AM) Buffy_04364: I get out when closes above/below the middle of channel(10:25 AM) Buffy_04364: looking at other charts and TF also including pyra(10:26 AM) Buffy_04364: when tagged bottomof square was expecting to get out(10:26 AM) Buffy_04364: need to trust it for against the trend(10:26 AM) Buffy_04364: still watching that part(10:27 AM) Buffy_04364: tagging 200ema on 9M(10:27 AM) tang: buffy do u use 200 ema for reversal(10:28 AM) Buffy_04364: I don't expect it to hold first time tagged if that is what you mean(10:28 AM) Buffy_04364: pyra couldn't hold break though to next square(10:28 AM) Buffy_04364: eithere(10:28 AM) tang: yes, 200 ema very good sup/res(10:30 AM) jimbo_320: morning all(10:31 AM) Buffy_04364: morning Jimbo(10:31 AM) ppusa: hanging around open(10:31 AM) jimbo_320: is the report out yet?(10:32 AM) Buffy_04364: 4.9(10:32 AM) Buffy_04364: much higher than expected(10:32 AM) ppusa: broke out from 60 area...retest that?(10:33 AM) Buffy_04364: short hre so will take it  :-)(10:33 AM) jimbo_320: looks like it was what the market expected looking at action(10:34 AM) Buffy_04364: futures dove over 150 pt s when announced at 8.30(10:34 AM) ppusa: just covered too(10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: me too (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: on gps(10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: general principles(10:36 AM) jimbo_320: vix 33.5 that is high(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: fighting too hard(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: to go down(10:36 AM) ppusa: still looking for a 200 point bounce. Question will nq go straight up or rounded bottom and i don't have the answer.(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: what is retro doing Dave?(10:37 AM) ppusa: todaqy's HOD was right on downtrend line and looks like it might last for awhile(10:37 AM) ppusa: dow down 100(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: tks ppusa(10:37 AM) ppusa: i am in scalp mode(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: that uniform channel works in higher tf(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: ditto ppusa(10:38 AM) Daniel X: pulling out he machetti(10:38 AM) ppusa: whoever it was that called this rally pretty savey trader?(10:38 AM) Buffy_04364: yes ppusa(10:38 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)(10:39 AM) Daniel X: thnx(10:39 AM) dave_b_quick: Buffy is da man(10:39 AM) ppusa: :-)(10:39 AM) Daniel X: its going to be like this for awhile(10:39 AM) Buffy_04364: and daniel and jimbo and ppusa and retro etc............(10:40 AM) Daniel X: lol(10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: inside bar on 3M(10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: we are a team!!(10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: short off of the shelf(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: many would use inside bar(10:42 AM) wayne_53: short ES 99.50(10:43 AM) ppusa: oversold here(10:43 AM) jimbo_320: out es +4.75, good start here(10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: market doesn't care about that stuff all the time but very good to know (10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: out here also for +3.5(10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: nq(10:44 AM) ppusa: sitting right on ma's(10:44 AM) wayne_53: stays over bought/sold for a long time sometimes(10:44 AM) jimbo_320: nq 70 is 5 ema short(10:44 AM) Buffy_04364: yes it can(10:45 AM) Buffy_04364: going for a coffee(10:45 AM) ppusa: maybe hang out here for rest of day(10:47 AM) Daniel X: looks so(10:47 AM) dave_b_quick: so we should take the rest of the day off?(10:47 AM) Daniel X: yes!!(10:48 AM) Daniel X: seems Retro gets 2 good trades a day the morn and the aft(10:48 AM) ppusa: i have scalped a lot this morning but still am missing the big moves. Ticks me off!!!(10:48 AM) Daniel X: ditto(10:49 AM) ppusa: up $500(10:49 AM) dave_b_quick: Daniel, maybe change retro's hours to first & last, and long lunch from 10:30-3:00(10:49 AM) ppusa: should be $5000(10:49 AM) dave_b_quick: how many contracts?(10:50 AM) Daniel X: thats what a trader told me...futures trade best 1rst and last hour(10:50 AM) ppusa: mostly ones this am(10:50 AM) jimbo_320: 11.00-30 is usually a good time(10:51 AM) Buffy_04364: looking for a short here flag then sideways on 1M(10:51 AM) Daniel X: ppusa limit exits on those multiple contract trades?(10:51 AM) Buffy_04364: short(10:51 AM) wayne_53: you in Buffy(10:51 AM) Buffy_04364: yes on nq(10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: don't like sideways after flag but will see risk not much(10:52 AM) jimbo_320: nq needs to break 63-65(10:52 AM) ppusa: i use both L and M.. Sometimes I start with a limit and then chase the heck out of it(10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: higher low not good (10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: out(10:52 AM) Daniel X: Buffy i no like the 5 min emas(10:52 AM) ppusa: nq down 3 days in a row(10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: gave back 4(10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: I am not looking at the 5m when in scalp mode daniel(10:52 AM) Daniel X: :-((10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: 3 is the longest(10:53 AM) Daniel X: ok(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: mostly tick charts(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: 3M 1M 50T and 75T(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: scalp mode(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)(10:53 AM) jimbo_320: that was a stop run buffy(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: been a good morning(10:53 AM) Daniel X: no 5 for direction?(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: going to have to watch getting careless(10:54 AM) Buffy_04364: nope(10:54 AM) wayne_53: ES just broke higher low off last 5m bar(10:54 AM) ppusa: whip in here(10:54 AM) ppusa: only buy and sell the pushesPaltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors.(10:54 AM) ppusa: don't try and go with anything(10:54 AM) jimbo_320: 65 breaks we see 55(10:54 AM) ppusa: scalp mode(10:55 AM) Buffy_04364: short and looking for 60(10:56 AM) MarkCA: Buffy, you going in and out with each wiggle?(10:56 AM) Daniel X: //(10:56 AM) jimbo_320: 65 now resistance(10:56 AM) Daniel X: \\(10:56 AM) Daniel X: //(10:56 AM) Daniel X: \\(10:56 AM) Daniel X: //(10:57 AM) Daniel X: \\(10:57 AM) Buffy_04364: oh well got some back(10:57 AM) Buffy_04364: flat now(10:57 AM) Buffy_04364: yes I am mark(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: when confirmed by the uniform channels and other stuff(10:58 AM) larrybf: is it ok to ask a question?(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: sure(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: 8 trades so far(10:59 AM) Orprepus: how many made $ buffy(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: all but 2(10:59 AM) Orprepus: and good morning(10:59 AM) larrybf: what is a good source for intraday exit strategies? entering is a breeze compared to the proper exit(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: up over 20 per contract(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: yes (10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: that is why I need to watch getting careless(10:59 AM) wayne_53: out ES +2.5(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: the uniform channel is working great on the low TF(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: haven't watched it on larger ones(11:00 AM) Buffy_04364: there are charts posted of it(11:00 AM) Buffy_04364: watch for lower highs and other signals we are used to on larger TF(11:00 AM) Buffy_04364: then when price swings to one side............(11:00 AM) jimbo_320: 65 is yesterdays low, thats why its taking so long(11:00 AM) Buffy_04364: pyra is doing well giving me watch points for the out(11:01 AM) Buffy_04364: normally not "with it" enough to scalp on a Friday(11:01 AM) larrybf: normally i use bollinger bands but not working as well with this big increase in volume(11:01 AM) Buffy_04364: I noticed it too lary(11:01 AM) jimbo_320: friday scalp mode is a different sort of scalp mode(11:01 AM) Buffy_04364: that is why when howard(11:02 AM) Buffy_04364: mentioned the uniform channel is class Weds I tried it(11:02 AM) Buffy_04364: the settings I use were posted yesterday(11:02 AM) larrybf: so i know the problem but i dont have ensign. i use nextrend(11:03 AM) Buffy_04364: but as howard says you have to play with htem(11:03 AM) Buffy_04364: have you tried a 13/2 on BB(11:03 AM) Buffy_04364: that helped some(11:03 AM) jimbo_320: out nq +8.5 on one, one more from 71 to run(11:03 AM) ppusa: 15 minute chart looks like the pullback might be over(11:03 AM) larrybf: thanks i will try thatbuffy(11:03 AM) Buffy_04364: pyra doesn't think so ppusa(11:04 AM) Buffy_04364: looking for 57(11:04 AM) ppusa: reither does the dow(11:04 AM) ppusa: but 15 does(11:04 AM) larrybf: i think jimmer uses an 8 bb , doesnt he?(11:05 AM) Buffy_04364: I don't know   Jimbo?(11:06 AM) Buffy_04364: looking for 51(11:07 AM) Buffy_04364: then 49(11:07 AM) Daniel X: out (11:09 AM) Daniel X: looks like we might hang aroung the 0 today(11:09 AM) Buffy_04364: out also(11:09 AM) jimbo_320: es heading for lod, still short(11:09 AM) Buffy_04364: good jimbo(11:10 AM) Daniel X: good(11:10 AM) ppusa: scalp mode would be a buy here(11:10 AM) Buffy_04364: this might just be a rest for nq then(11:10 AM) Daniel X: Dow -165(11:10 AM) Buffy_04364: not wth TOS right there for me(11:10 AM) Buffy_04364: plus don't do against the trend(11:11 AM) Daniel X: and that being?(11:11 AM) Daniel X: lol(11:11 AM) ppusa: what is T?(11:11 AM) Buffy_04364: LOL(11:11 AM) Buffy_04364: top of square(11:11 AM) ppusa: tks(11:12 AM) Buffy_04364: flag on 75T and 1M(11:12 AM) Buffy_04364: ?(11:12 AM) Buffy_04364: this volitility sure makes it hard to get  a TL on higher TF charts(11:13 AM) ppusa: scalo mode out(11:13 AM) dave_b_quick: NDX poked march low(11:13 AM) Daniel X: 5 point stops not very effective(11:13 AM) ppusa: darn i was looking for 60(11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: I use market and not stops(11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: stops are way out to protect(11:13 AM) Daniel X: same hre(11:13 AM) Daniel X: here(11:14 AM) Daniel X: another cover(11:14 AM) Daniel X: ?(11:14 AM) ppusa: thanks buffy but see, scalp mode(11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: scalp mode means think fast LOL(11:15 AM) ppusa: i was a little early   thinking too fast(11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: lol(11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: yep still have to wait for price to confirm(11:15 AM) Daniel X: funny how the characteristics are changing....where the down moves are slower than the ups(11:16 AM) Daniel X: bear to bull(11:16 AM) dave_b_quick: excuse me?(11:16 AM) ppusa: si si shazid(11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: true Daniel and that is why we need to be able to adjust(11:16 AM) Daniel X: Dave?(11:16 AM) dave_b_quick: ?(11:16 AM) shahzad_19: how are you ppusa(11:16 AM) Daniel X: r u addressing me Dave?(11:16 AM) shahzad_19: where frome you(11:16 AM) ppusa: good and you?(11:17 AM) shahzad_19: ppusa you have a camera(11:17 AM) dave_b_quick: no dan, trying to figure out what shahzad said(11:17 AM) Daniel X: oh ok(11:17 AM) ppusa: yes i do(11:18 AM) shahzad_19: then i chate supreate room(11:18 AM) ppusa: but i am still in my pj's(11:18 AM) shahzad_19: what pi's(11:19 AM) shahzad_19: where from you(11:19 AM) tang: possible long?(11:19 AM) Daniel X: here we go again(11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: fclothes you sleep in(11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: where did that f come from(11:19 AM) ppusa: excuse me shahzad but i am trading wildly(11:19 AM) shahzad_19: ok(11:19 AM) jimbo_320: 65 resistance(11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: k(11:19 AM) shahzad_19: what things in trading(11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: brb(11:20 AM) shahzad_19: hello buffy(11:20 AM) ppusa: nasdaq futures(11:20 AM) ppusa: buffy?(11:20 AM) shahzad_19: sorry(11:20 AM) Daniel X: shahzad...we are working(11:21 AM) shahzad_19: please explance the nasdaq futures in detial(11:21 AM) shahzad_19: i am employ in garments firm(11:21 AM) jimbo_320: was unemployment 4.9%(11:21 AM) cheetah55: shahzad, read up on them at cme.com(11:21 AM) shahzad_19: asst. marketing manager(11:21 AM) ppusa: nasdaq futures follow the stock market(11:21 AM) Daniel X: rag trade huh(11:22 AM) ppusa: we are stock market traders(11:22 AM) shahzad_19: no(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: bk(11:22 AM) shahzad_19: what bk(11:22 AM) cheetah55: Read up at cme.com or cbot.com   Until then,  get lost(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: back(11:22 AM) ppusa: buffy see the spike on 15 minute chart?Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni.  Today's charts at www.DaCharts.comWARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk.(11:24 AM) cheetah55: ppusa, someone has to be !!(11:24 AM) cheetah55: LOL(11:24 AM) Daniel X: lol Cheetah(11:24 AM) ppusa: it's the extreme pushes and bounce backs(11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: yes and I thank you(11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: doing six things herePaltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups?Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELPon your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'.(11:26 AM) Buffy_04364: inside bar on 3m(11:26 AM) Daniel X: back @ 12:30 ...like it matters(11:26 AM) Buffy_04364: tks for telling us daniel(11:26 AM) Buffy_04364: we will miss you(11:27 AM) Daniel X: ;-)(11:27 AM) ppusa: food here too(11:27 AM) Buffy_04364: looking for short here(11:27 AM) Buffy_04364: and in(11:27 AM) Buffy_04364: hammer failed again as T would say(11:28 AM) ppusa: cover(11:30 AM) ppusa: now?(11:31 AM) Buffy_04364: sorry ppusa watching it no I am still short(11:31 AM) Buffy_04364: hasn't done anything I didn't expect(11:31 AM) Buffy_04364: yet(11:32 AM) Buffy_04364: yahoo(11:32 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks(11:32 AM) ppusa: just bounce back to break down point(11:32 AM) ppusa: 30 minute chart has same pattern as 15(11:32 AM) Buffy_04364: inside bar on 3m(11:32 AM) Buffy_04364: now out(11:32 AM) jimbo_320: takes a bow(11:33 AM) jimbo_320: looks like i should of covered the other at 55 my target(11:33 AM) ppusa: darn i bot 63 sold 66 now 68(11:34 AM) jimbo_320: stop at be one the other(11:34 AM) ppusa: BUFFY IF YOU GET A CHANCE look at 30 minute chart...same pattern as 15(11:35 AM) ppusa: retro long(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: ok will try(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: good observation(11:35 AM) ppusa: scalp mode(11:35 AM) jimbo_320: stopped how to turn +14 into 0 by jimbo(11:36 AM) jimbo_320: now it will sell off(11:36 AM) ppusa: that's why in scalp mode i don't like TL breaks, often as not they are fakes(11:36 AM) ppusa: should have 3 hours of scalp mode(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: not if tf low enough for good TL IO(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: IO=IMO(11:37 AM) jimbo_320: it was to close too 11.30 and chop (11:37 AM) ppusa: i like the 30 tick chart for scalp mode. ... I compress the bars together and really works(11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: will have to look at it(11:38 AM) ppusa: bar spacing set at 2(11:39 AM) ppusa: also the ma's are better(11:39 AM) jimbo_320: well up on two trades so far so cant complain +4.75 es +8.5 nq(11:39 AM) ppusa: all that and play guitar too!(11:40 AM) jimbo_320: thats why lost the 14, not concentrating(11:40 AM) ppusa: buff, if you look at 30 tick you will also see that your last trade was too close to 200 ma(11:41 AM) ppusa: gotta get those pushes(11:41 AM) ppusa: taking a break brb(11:43 AM) jimbo_320: had to test that 70 to find the real sellers(11:43 AM) Buffy_04364: nice trade jimbo(11:45 AM) jimbo_320: es just broke lod trendline(11:48 AM) jimbo_320: thanks goodness for stops, i'd be up 15 and with a potential lod break into the bargain(11:49 AM) jimbo_320: es and nq setting up head and shoulder?(11:50 AM) Buffy_04364: could be jimbo(11:51 AM) jimbo_320: downside on es could be 1080(11:51 AM) Buffy_04364: just posted a 3m with flag TL(11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: nice charts beanman and orp(11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: welcome newcomers(11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: the charts are posted at www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com(11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: please feel free to ask any questions you may have(11:54 AM) jimbo_320: posted es chart(11:54 AM) Buffy_04364: tks jimboPaltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.(11:55 AM) tang: i seee one min  chart jimbo(11:56 AM) jimbo_320: y(11:56 AM) jimbo_320: shame its lunch time(11:56 AM) tang: what is it tellilng jimbo(11:56 AM) ppusa: dow off low(11:56 AM) tang: 2b possible long(11:56 AM) ppusa: time to short for a retest or?(11:57 AM) jimbo_320: head and shoulders usually provide a good entry on the retracement to the lod trendline and a short with a big pot reward here 12 points if it plays out(11:58 AM) tang: i see now(11:58 AM) jimbo_320: it will be on all timeframes so all traders can see it - that is why such big reward(11:58 AM) tang: good 20/20 sight(11:59 AM) jimbo_320: i reckon we chop under trendline till after lunch then clunk?(12:00 PM) Buffy_04364: looks like it(12:00 PM) ppusa: scalp mode woukl say this is a buy(12:00 PM) ppusa: because lower end of trading range(12:01 PM) Buffy_04364: justr posted another 3m with new trendline(12:01 PM) jimbo_320: nq does not have such a well defined picture - too many scaplers on nq LOL(12:01 PM) tang: what is it showing, buffy(12:02 PM) ppusa: dow is finally recovering so sselling may ease for awhile(12:02 PM) Buffy_04364: another flag line tang(12:02 PM) tang: anyone long at 1365(12:02 PM) tang: ok buffy(12:03 PM) ppusa: or could be a setup for a retest?(12:03 PM) amer_68: Morning (Late morning here in Omaha)(12:04 PM) ppusa: gm arner(12:04 PM) amer_68: Beanman: I'm assuming BOS is the Horizontal  price lines but jwhat do the letters stand for?(12:05 PM) Buffy_04364: bottom of square(12:05 PM) beanman_1: BOS is the bottom of the square.. tos is top square, COT is change of trend(12:05 PM) amer_68: Thanks, both.(12:07 PM) beanman_1: theory is that price is attracted/ magnitized toward the square roots of price-- which are the TOS and BOS and that changes of trend occur at the EOS where price and time meet...Also price tends to "vibrate" up /down the 45 degree channels..(12:09 PM) amer_68: beanman: Yah, see that and read Howard's commentary in the newsletters. Find it very useful using pyrapoint. Helps knowing where one is, thanks.(12:16 PM) Buffy_04364: this is getting to be chop chop(12:16 PM) Buffy_04364: even on smaller tf(12:16 PM) Buffy_04364: so taking a break(12:18 PM) amer_68: Beanman: The significance of the horizantal and vertical #'s in the Ensign pyrapoint charts? I believe Gann talked about 90, 180, etc, degrees being important. These #'s have anything to do with that?? Por favor!(12:22 PM) beanman_1: yes.. pyra is based on Gann.. Gann believed that that time is more impt that price and that a change of trend occurs where price and time meet ==the EOS..(12:23 PM) amer_68: Do some of th #'s have more significance than other?(12:23 PM) beanman_1: Pyra uses 90 and 180 and 360 degrees in the higher TF's but on the smaller TF's pyra uses multiples of those numbers.. 45, 22, 11.6, 5,65...(12:23 PM) jimbo_320: posted es 60 chart, adx if 55.86 on 60 chartPaltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW!Get your friends in on the fun!Invite them to join us on PalTalk today!(12:25 PM) Buffy_04364: nice jimbo(12:26 PM) amer_68: On your charts this morning you have for example 44, 55, 66 and 77 indicating the vertical lines. Can  one expect some #'s to be more important than others?(12:27 PM) beanman_1: Those numbers are for counting the bars.. sometimes COT's occure at Bar counts that coincide with Gann numbers lilke 45, 90, 180, 270, 260(12:27 PM) amer_68: Ok, thanks.(12:31 PM) rs_5: hi all :)(12:34 PM) amer_68: rs:  :)(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: hi rs(12:40 PM) elly_34: good morning, where can i find howard?(12:41 PM) jimbo_320: anybody sell the 1095?(12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: not showing him on yet elly(12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: is there a problem we can help with(12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: maybe(12:42 PM) jimbo_320: anyone tempted by a long?(12:43 PM) ppusa: not yet(12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: I just did a short on nq (12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: but you are talking es?(12:43 PM) ppusa: tempted yes(12:43 PM) ppusa: but waiting(12:43 PM) elly_34: yes if u have time(12:43 PM) jimbo_320: lod tests during lunch hour have the best chance of bouncing, paper long 90.5(12:44 PM) elly_34: seems that ensign uses a lot more resources than qcharts(12:44 PM) elly_34: i'm trying to do something about it, but not sure what(12:44 PM) ppusa: the 1350 took out the low by 1.5 ticks on 15 minute(12:44 PM) Buffy_04364: elly what are your settings for the tick server?(12:45 PM) jimbo_320: see if 92 find sellers?(12:45 PM) elly_34: looking(12:45 PM) ppusa: couold be follow through or? waiting for signal(12:45 PM) elly_34: what should it be?(12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: setrup(12:45 PM) elly_34: 2 days?(12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: manager(12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: I keep that disabled unless filling in missed data(12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: really helps(12:46 PM) elly_34: i see(12:47 PM) elly_34: ok i just disabled tick server(12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: try that hope it helps(12:47 PM) elly_34: but what i don't get is then i ahve to reboot(12:48 PM) jimbo_320: high vol bar(12:48 PM) elly_34: brb(12:49 PM) Buffy_04364: that surprises me elly(12:49 PM) Buffy_04364: usually don't have to(12:51 PM) amer_68: Buffy: Where do you find the settings for the tick server?(12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: setup - manager(12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: preserve existing bars should not be checked eitiher(12:52 PM) amer_68: Hmm! I don't have a manager under setup.(12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: are you esignal(12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: maybe different for other feeds?(12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: it is the last tab to the right for me(12:53 PM) amer_68: No. DTN. Explains that, eh.(12:54 PM) Buffy_04364: nice beanmanPaltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end yourpopup blues today! Click HELP on your Pal Listthen click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year!That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!!(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: just tested last swing low(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: just posted another 3m with more TL(12:57 PM) ppusa: looks like nq will go for LOD(12:57 PM) ppusa: i am flat(12:57 PM) ppusa: probably stay flat until a buy signal(12:58 PM) ppusa: don't like shorting this low(12:58 PM) ppusa: if anyone sees a buy sig, please let me know(12:58 PM) dave_b_quick: ppusa, you mean low of year?(12:59 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL(01:01 PM) Buffy_04364: number 13 is last 3M posted(01:02 PM) ppusa: low of day low of week low of month low of year low of decade low of century(01:02 PM) ppusa: low of millenium(01:03 PM) Buffy_04364: testing bottom of TL on last 3m posted(01:03 PM) ppusa: e mini nasty(01:03 PM) dave_b_quick: NDX just busted the 3yr low(01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: tks(01:04 PM) dave_b_quick: weekly chart posted(01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dave(01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: brb(01:10 PM) Buffy_04364: back above the TL now(01:14 PM) ppusa: hokling 45 degree up from earlier lows on hour chart. not that i care...waiting for a signal(01:15 PM) ppusa: gimme some kinda sign girl, (01:15 PM) ppusa: kis' gimme some kinda sign girl, singing(01:15 PM) ppusa: jus(01:15 PM) ppusa: '(01:16 PM) amer_68: lol(01:16 PM) ppusa: oh yea(01:16 PM) ppusa: this why i no go short(01:16 PM) Daniel X: more comfortable now that we're under the Emas on the 9 min(01:17 PM) jimbo_320: anyone long now?(01:17 PM) Buffy_04364: not me(01:17 PM) Buffy_04364: but nq(01:17 PM) ppusa: yes(01:17 PM) Daniel X: ha(01:17 PM) ppusa: looking for a door(01:17 PM) Buffy_04364: have another tl on the 3m(01:18 PM) Daniel X: things should pu here(01:19 PM) ppusa: some jacl___ selling 200 at 57(01:19 PM) ppusa: out(01:19 PM) Daniel X: channel inside another channel inside a triangle on and on......(01:19 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra say might be good play(01:20 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL(01:20 PM) Buffy_04364: yep(01:20 PM) Daniel X: like i metioned yesterday...floor or ceiling?(01:20 PM) ppusa: look at 15 minute chart bars(01:20 PM) Buffy_04364: got to add another TL(01:20 PM) Buffy_04364: posted(01:20 PM) ppusa: 2 down and an up(01:21 PM) jimbo_320: this could be the neckline retracement on nq(01:21 PM) jimbo_320: 60(01:21 PM) ppusa: 2 or 3 down pattern repeating(01:22 PM) jimbo_320: not very high volume(01:22 PM) ppusa: i guess jack selling 200 at 57 wasn't such an ___(01:23 PM) jimbo_320: 57 was the 20ema5(01:23 PM) ppusa: retro whip?(01:23 PM) elly_34: retro had one great first trade of day, looks like whip city now but haven't tracked all(01:23 PM) jimbo_320: at least nq is now under the neckline for after lunch hehe(01:25 PM) Daniel X: Dow near lod ...be on  bounce lookoutPaltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners!(01:26 PM) beanman_1: fyi, just posted pyra update to daily ES(01:26 PM) Buffy_04364: tks(01:26 PM) jimbo_320: too oversold for me i want to see the lod crack through(01:26 PM) ppusa: PnF - nq not oversold and holding beneath resistance(01:27 PM) elly_34: where was april dow pls?(01:27 PM) ppusa: i still won't short here(01:27 PM) jimbo_320: nq was 48.5(01:28 PM) ppusa: jimbo 48.5 or 61.5?(01:29 PM) Buffy_04364: test of last low   123(01:29 PM) ppusa: near month was 61.5(01:30 PM) ppusa: looked like the action yesterday at the close verified that(01:30 PM) ppusa: top of 2(01:31 PM) ppusa: waiting for 3(01:32 PM) ppusa: did everyone get bumped from paltalk yesterday at the close? i did(01:32 PM) Buffy_04364: testing it again(01:32 PM) Daniel X: retro looking @ 45.50(01:33 PM) ppusa: come on kids... anyone?(01:34 PM) Daniel X: Retro short @ 45.50(01:35 PM) elly_34: for today?(01:36 PM) Daniel X: yes(01:36 PM) Daniel X: aahh crapola ...no cajones this low(01:36 PM) amer_68: Yes(01:37 PM) Daniel X: lod matched(01:37 PM) ppusa: wish i had shorted where i dumped the long at 57(01:37 PM) Daniel X: PnF says 42.50 the #(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it was down for hours I believe(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: was on when I got back from bridge about 11(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: paltalk yesterday(01:37 PM) tang: good luck dan(01:37 PM) Daniel X: short from 93(01:37 PM) Daniel X: Dow lod(01:37 PM) amer_68: S&P cash is just over one point above the March low. Is this where the yuppies bail BIG TIME?(01:37 PM) Daniel X: kidding Tang(01:37 PM) Daniel X: 1336 pivot s1(01:38 PM) tang: ok(01:39 PM) Buffy_04364: tks amer(01:39 PM) Daniel X: Dow - 269 wow(01:39 PM) Buffy_04364: nice chart beanman(01:40 PM) Buffy_04364: where are the curbs today on these things(01:41 PM) Daniel X: 1336(01:41 PM) Buffy_04364: tks(01:42 PM) dave_b_quick: somewhere areound 1275 on NQ?(01:42 PM) dave_b_quick: 3375(01:43 PM) Dirk-X: Is anyone having problems with IB?(01:43 PM) Dirk-X: I logged out and I can't log back in.(01:43 PM) dave_b_quick: seems OK here(01:45 PM) elly_34: daniel, where are we pointwise on retro?(01:46 PM) Daniel X: sorry  havn't been following all week(01:46 PM) elly_34: that's alright, me neither(01:47 PM) Daniel X: went into scalp mode after Retro was in stop hell(01:47 PM) Daniel X: characteristic of market extremes(01:48 PM) Daniel X: echo echo(01:48 PM) ppusa: could be a buy here(01:48 PM) ppusa: pass(01:49 PM) ppusa: no real evidence yet looks like more chop(01:49 PM) ppusa: whoops(01:50 PM) ppusa: hour chart looks like this could be the high (01:50 PM) Daniel X: every minor swing low is meet with short covering(01:50 PM) ppusa: yep(01:50 PM) Daniel X: met(01:50 PM) ppusa: so no short except a bounce(01:50 PM) beanman_1: And every high is shorted..(01:50 PM) Daniel X: thats right(01:51 PM) Daniel X: for those in the know...is this a basing pattern?(01:51 PM) ppusa: deer here(01:51 PM) Daniel X: clop clop(01:51 PM) Dirk-X: Finally, let me back into my account...  :- |(01:51 PM) ppusa: clippity clop(01:51 PM) Daniel X: run deer run(01:51 PM) beanman_1: my thoughts all wk have been that the returning traders have been building short positions on every rally.. ie. Msft, NAPM..(01:51 PM) Buffy_04364: some say it is daniel(01:51 PM) Daniel X: thnx Buffy'(01:52 PM) dave_b_quick: daniel, if the march low holds it should be good for some kind of rally(01:52 PM) Dirk-X: Anybody know what it means when the IB icon appears near the bulletin ticker and starts flashing red/blue?(01:52 PM) ppusa: should have bot the 5 minute 2T(01:52 PM) Daniel X: i'd expect it Dave just look at the speed of the covers versus the selling(01:53 PM) Daniel X: Dirk ur in 'out of profit?(01:53 PM) Daniel X: bad news good news(01:54 PM) Daniel X: pulling ur leg(01:54 PM) Dirk-X: exsqueeze me?(01:54 PM) Daniel X: haPaltalk: Subscribe to bannerless to stop the popups today!Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELPon your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'.(01:56 PM) Daniel X: Buffy..i have a PalTalk question 4 you(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: go ahead(01:56 PM) Daniel X: when u pay the fee..does it become bannerless and popless?(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: don't have new versions(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: yes(01:56 PM) Daniel X: thnx (01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: nice sunset pickture up top(01:56 PM) Daniel X: lol ok(01:57 PM) Buffy_04364: ads do pop up if you jump rooms(01:57 PM) Daniel X: really ok(01:58 PM) ppusa: short here?(01:58 PM) elly_34: bbs(01:58 PM) Daniel X: sell every 10/15 up move cover for 10/15 points and go long and resell 10/15 points later.....only pros out there folks(01:59 PM) ppusa: tough one here?(01:59 PM) Wolfguard 1: Daniel, retro still lower high working will sell 1 tic below last 15mbar until last swing high at 1:20 1091 on 5mchart taken out, is that correct(01:59 PM) ppusa: retested the low so new hod?(01:59 PM) ppusa: let's go for HOD(01:59 PM) dave_b_quick: NDX back above march low(02:00 PM) Daniel X: lost you Wolf(02:00 PM) Daniel X: Dave can u give a response(02:00 PM) dave_b_quick: didn't get the question(02:00 PM) Daniel X: look up(02:01 PM) Daniel X: Wolf(02:01 PM) jimbo_320: bk, took me 1/2 hour to get into paltalk(02:01 PM) jimbo_320: useless(02:01 PM) Wolfguard 1: for retro trade we are still in a downtrend until the last swing high taken out on the 5 or the 15m chart?(02:01 PM) jimbo_320: posted dow chart(02:01 PM) Buffy_04364: they said they are working around the clock to fix(02:01 PM) dave_b_quick: ya, wolf(02:01 PM) Daniel X: yes and it just was wolf 57.50(02:02 PM) jimbo_320: buffy should hope so, useless software(02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: sure is a treding day(02:02 PM) Wolfguard 1: sorry i am on the ES(02:02 PM) Daniel X: sorry(02:02 PM) Wolfguard 1: high still not taken out, 1 point to go(02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: well, they should of started firday if they were going to both move and upgrade it at the same time(02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: thinking it was only going to take a day was stupid(02:03 PM) Wolfguard 1: if it fails here retro will short 1 tic below the last 15mbar correct(02:03 PM) dave_b_quick: y(02:03 PM) jimbo_320: tick +ve - its a miracle(02:04 PM) Wolfguard 1: likewise if it gets above it retro goews long 1 tick above the last 15m bar correct?(02:04 PM) dave_b_quick: y(02:05 PM) jimbo_320: my neckline short reaped 13 es (without me of course)(02:05 PM) Wolfguard 1: my question is do you use the 5 or the 15m chart to set the swing high and low for the trend?(02:05 PM) Buffy_04364: :-((02:05 PM) wayne_53: about time to rollover again(02:06 PM) dave_b_quick: wolf, retro uses 5m trend(02:07 PM) Wolfguard 1: thanks dave(02:07 PM) jimbo_320: c  b right wayne(02:08 PM) jimbo_320: come one have all the traders gone home?(02:09 PM) dave_b_quick: the smart ones(02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: beginning to look that way jimbo(02:09 PM) ppusa: TL with 4 down hours ... likely further up(02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: they all made their money this morning(02:09 PM) Dirk-X: long from 59(02:10 PM) Dirk-X: sl=56(02:10 PM) ppusa: could get a run here or this is top(02:10 PM) ppusa: every other day this pattern has been a top(02:11 PM) ppusa: up(02:11 PM) Dirk-X: sl=58.5(02:11 PM) jimbo_320: 1090 providing resistance(02:11 PM) Daniel X: choo choo(02:12 PM) Daniel X: Jimbo that's what i noticed this am(02:12 PM) jimbo_320: 1090 is also the premarket low(02:12 PM) Dirk-X: out b/e(02:12 PM) Daniel X: but with this short covering rallys ...u think it's all of us little guys?(02:12 PM) Dirk-X: will short at 54.5(02:12 PM) Dirk-X: 5min 2b reversal(02:13 PM) Daniel X: 54 nice short opp(02:13 PM) jimbo_320: give me a spike...(02:13 PM) Daniel X: right smack in the middle of sup res(02:14 PM) jimbo_320: train heading south?(02:16 PM) ppusa: nq has to go through 68 area before looks good imo(02:16 PM) jimbo_320: nq 64 was yesterdays low(02:16 PM) Dirk-X: short(02:17 PM) Buffy_04364: ditto(02:17 PM) Buffy_04364: not too promising if goes back about TL thought nq(02:18 PM) ppusa: but the hour chart with 4 down hours says likely possibility(02:18 PM) jimbo_320: we need a spike to find real sellers(02:18 PM) Dirk-X: out -3(02:18 PM) Buffy_04364: -4 here(02:18 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra said not to do it too(02:19 PM) ppusa: held previous 15 minute bar low(02:19 PM) Buffy_04364: should of listened  :-((02:21 PM) wayne_53: possible short coming up on ES at 85.50(02:21 PM) jimbo_320: 64 was also the neckline  resistance on nq(02:21 PM) Buffy_04364: true
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Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni.  Today's charts at www.DaCharts.comWARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk.wayne_53: Well, which way is it headed for the last hourDaniel X: 15 min down channel @ 76dave_b_quick: did anybody else get kicked out of paltalk?Daniel X: linejimbo_320: nq leading the marketwayne_53: so do we go up jimboDaniel X: Dow still down 222jimbo_320: what do u think wayne?Buffy_04364: pyra says still upDaniel X: 1383 pivotjimbo_320: upside limited i thinkBuffy_04364: 84.50 here getting closerwayne_53: Well I'd hate to be longDaniel X: lol why?jimbo_320: that 4.9% is not good news...ppusa: been down 3 days lower highs and lowsppusa: come on guysBuffy_04364: doesn't mean lots of shorts aren't covering for the weekend maybeDirk-X: doesn't matter, IMHO....volitility is with upside movesppusa: crossed every 200 ma to the upsideDirk-X: so trade with itBuffy_04364: yep it isjimbo_320: what was the last employ number?Buffy_04364: yep doing that for onesBuffy_04364: 4.7 was predicted todayBuffy_04364: don't remember last onejimbo_320: 75 where we started the dayDaniel X: consensus was 4.7 we got 4.9jimbo_320: lets see if new money is being put to work :-)Dirk-X: 75 where we started what day?ppusa: back to openjimbo_320: 8.00amppusa: todayDirk-X: ahh...8mDirk-X: amjimbo_320: guess that was when the report came outBuffy_04364: 8:30Buffy_04364: estppusa: putting in a top here for next pb?jimbo_320: y when the plunge started, did u trade that buffy?Buffy_04364: before market no I didn'tDaniel X: When does "healthy stress" become "unhealthy anxiety".......how about when "wealthy stress" becomes "unwhealthy anxiethy"...dam ads i'm paying the mondayBuffy_04364: LOLBuffy_04364: I couldn't stand the guy running around the windowDaniel X: loljimbo_320: posted es 60 chart, where are the sellers?Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away!Press the invite button NOW!Buffy_04364: I pd on a friday night right after market closed or early sat morning - couldn't wait to get rid of itBuffy_04364: tksjimboDaniel X: is this what Mike would call classic topping action?wayne_53: anyone going upjimbo_320: gone homeBuffy_04364: almosttBuffy_04364: looking for 2bDaniel X: this is what happened last fridayppusa: looking for 1393 nqDaniel X: looking for a 2B short and got burnedDaniel X: 1383 pivotDaniel X: if we go through.............wayne_53: Has it got quiet here or did I get kicked offdave_b_quick: i don't hear youwayne_53: helloBuffy_04364: quietwayne_53: okwayne_53: thnxppusa: wonder if nq close below 61.5?Buffy_04364: usually does on friday afternoon with me - week catches up ppusa: got a short off at 79 ...coveredwayne_53: Every night I feel like I just finished a weekjimbo_320: teresa is having a party in her roomdave_b_quick: good job ppusa!Buffy_04364: greatppusa: 10 point PnF had acrophobiaBuffy_04364: tim elneppusa: buffy is excitedBuffy_04364: lolBuffy_04364: sleepy too dave_b_quick: ya, when that time line gets close i can feel the tension in the airBuffy_04364: lolBuffy_04364: this could be start of dive hereDaniel X: Retro short 69.50ppusa: sell signals on short term PnF'swayne_53: things are deteriorating again possiblyBuffy_04364: to what who knows  LOLdave_b_quick: enough spring to blow thru the lows?  Maybe not 'til next week.ppusa: right on trend line from today's lowppusa: right hereBuffy_04364: just took out bos in pyrajimbo_320: out nq +6.5Buffy_04364: just as I was getting tired of just sitting here..............ppusa: 61.5Daniel X: holding 20 ema 5 minjimbo_320: there was a nice high vol bar on nq at 83ppusa: traded 58 sides todayBuffy_04364: out for 8.5jimbo_320: will this retracement find buyers, any takers?Buffy_04364: on a fridayDaniel X: if they cant sell it............Buffy_04364: who knowsjimbo_320: things not looking gooddave_b_quick: bblppusa: Dow looks like it needs a day of trading next to today's range as opposed to a hammer pattern and up. Si I assume Nasdaq will not blast off. But I am not really bearish at these levels. just trading away.ppusa: 3 days down not a good place to go heavily short